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Technical question on Airprime PC card - Unlimited NationalAccess and Networks

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Peter Pan, Jun 16, 2004.

  1. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     



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  2. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  3. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  4. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  5. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  6. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  7. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  8. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  9. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  10. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  11. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  12. Elector

    Elector Guest

    "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    > A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I keep

    trying
    > Verizon tech support and got many different and conflicting answers. I

    have
    > a laptop with an Airprime card and an unlimited account. One of my office
    > mates has a DSL connection, and another has a cable internet connection.
    > Work is considering putting in a wireless network so we can share things
    > like printers dial-up etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say
    > that their connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet
    > the Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be a
    > shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or cable

    can
    > be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    > There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer why we
    > just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to move in a

    few
    > months to an area that is out of both the DSL and Cable areas, but has
    > Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we are in an area that will be
    > going to Broadband Access in the next few months, so keeping the unlimited
    > Airprime cards, and putting it on the network as a shared device, seems to
    > make the most sense. One of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that

    it
    > can only be used in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be
    > physically removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as
    > silly as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing

    of
    > printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine it is on

    and
    > connected to another one! (or an even more absurd statement, from another
    > tech support (not) person, was that since you will have 8 machines on the
    > network, you have to buy 8 Airprime cards and 8 unlimited access

    accounts!)
    > What is a network for except to share devices?
    > I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to

    consider
    > it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make Verizon a lot more
    > money.
    > The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system, Both
    > Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a network!
    > Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >
    >
    >


    God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband router
    like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external cardbus
    (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to connect to the
    net via the placement of the router and the ability to be setup to use that
    network.

    If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share the
    connection wireless or via a wired connection.

    Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going to work
    in that environment.

    Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my network.
    They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC address filters or
    you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to use the connection (DSL or
    Cable)

    Elector
     
  13. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     
  14. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     
  15. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     
  16. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     
  17. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     
  18. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     
  19. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     
  20. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    "Elector" <elector@my-deja.com> wrote in message
    news:NZ0Ac.31461$mz.22919@nwrdny02.gnilink.net
    > "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:2jbhkeFvdr9rU1@uni-berlin.de...
    >> A question that someone here may or may not be able to answer. I
    >> keep trying Verizon tech support and got many different and
    >> conflicting answers. I have a laptop with an Airprime card and an
    >> unlimited account. One of my office mates has a DSL connection, and
    >> another has a cable internet connection. Work is considering putting
    >> in a wireless network so we can share things like printers dial-up
    >> etc. The DSL people and the Cable people, both say that their
    >> connections/modems can be a shared resource on the network, yet the
    >> Verizon people say that their Airprime card/unlimited access cant be
    >> a shared resource on the network. It seems sort of silly that DSL or
    >> cable can be shared, but the Airprime card can't.
    >> There is one other piece of info making me wonder (and may answer
    >> why we just don't stick with DSL or Cable), The office is looking to
    >> move in a few months to an area that is out of both the DSL and
    >> Cable areas, but has Verizon service, and as a matter of fact, we
    >> are in an area that will be going to Broadband Access in the next
    >> few months, so keeping the unlimited Airprime cards, and putting it
    >> on the network as a shared device, seems to make the most sense. One
    >> of the answers (a majorly absurd one), was that it can only be used
    >> in one machine, and not networked, the card has to be physically
    >> removed from one machine, and inserted into another. That's as silly
    >> as saying you can't use a printer on a network, no network sharing
    >> of printers! It has to be physically disconnected from the machine
    >> it is on and connected to another one! (or an even more absurd
    >> statement, from another tech support (not) person, was that since
    >> you will have 8 machines on the network, you have to buy 8 Airprime
    >> cards and 8 unlimited access accounts!) What is a network for except
    >> to share devices?
    >> I get the feeling that the techies at Verizon really don't want to
    >> consider it, since they can make ridiculous statements and make
    >> Verizon a lot more money.
    >> The other option for the new office would be a Sat internet system,
    >> Both Starband and Direcway say those can be shared devices on a
    >> network!
    >> Any thoughts or experiences would be appreciated.
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
    > God your making this way to technical. You cannot use an air card in a
    > shared office environment. One it is used for cellular broadband
    > connection. Secondly on a cable or DSL service a simple broadband
    > router like Linksys (http://www.linksys.com and additional external
    > cardbus (Network Cards) or internal Wireless a/b/g will be able to
    > connect to the net via the placement of the router and the ability to
    > be setup to use that network.
    >
    > If you don't have the router and the network cards you cannot share
    > the connection wireless or via a wired connection.
    >
    > Your Verizon Wireless Aircard is not compatible so that is not going
    > to work in that environment.
    >
    > Oh and I use both a wireless G card and wired connections on my
    > network. They work great. Just be sure to set up individual MAC
    > address filters or you'll have every tom, dick and harry trying to
    > use the connection (DSL or Cable)
    >
    > Elector


    Sorry for getting technical here, but tech support seems to have it's brain
    up it's rear, and gives absurd and conflicting answers.
    Just did a test at a friends, and now I am even more perplexed than ever. He
    has a cell/MO/wireless network etc, and when he (or anyone else on the
    network) logs on he/they can use the cell link, so now I am even more
    confused why a cell phone/MO can be a shared resource, but an Airprime card
    can't be!?!

    Let me restate, if I connect a cellphone and MO on a networked machine, make
    it a shared resource, others can use it (just like DSL/Cable/Sat), yet the
    Airprime card that is supposed to be always on (and which can do the even
    higher speed Broadband), can't. So handsets/MO can do it, but the card
    can't, and unfortunately, there's no handset/mo combo at the moment that can
    use Broadband.

    Basically the dilemma is I would like to use my existing card (which is
    still on contract for 6 months, and work will pay for it and the remaining
    contract if I can get it working), or in the new location, they will
    probably just get a Sat system.

    The part that's annoying, is that it makes no logical sense for a phone/mo
    combo to work, yet the data card won't.
     

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