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The great iPhone hunt of 2007

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Lex, Jun 16, 2007.

  1. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    > In article <5dtdtuF36150sU1@mid.individual.net>,
    > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:23:18 +1000]:
    >>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:34:44 +1000]:
    >>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:59:10 +1000]:
    >>>>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:26:11 +1000]:
    >>>>>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where can one legally download CD-quality music?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of places.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Refusal to substantiate your claim noted.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Your pathetically hoary old line ignored.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> OK. Name a place. I dare you.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Just one.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> If you have paid for any format of a particular piece of music,
    >>>>>>>> you are legally entitled to download the CD quality copy,
    >>>>>>>> child.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> So, you're STILL dodging the challenge.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Nope.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yep.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> IOW, you're pulling things out of your arse.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Nope.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yep.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> The other obvious place is with music thats public domain,
    >>>>>> fuckwit child.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Ooooh, you tried to answer. Then followed up with an insult. How
    >>>>> wonderful you are. Did your penis grow after making that so witty
    >>>>> comment?
    >>>>
    >>>> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
    >>>
    >>> Are you my mummy?

    >>
    >> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.

    >
    > Why don't you guys get a room and spare us the penis contest?


    Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
     



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  2. Geoff  Miller

    Geoff Miller Guest

    chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> writes:

    [Chevrolets]

    : If you can't provide reasons *why* you believe they suck, it's
    : hard to take your assertion at all seriously.

    > 'Cause they handle like sh*t. (The ones I've tried, anyway.)



    Remember the late, unlamented Chevy Cavalier? I used to loathe
    that pathetic, under-engineered, half-assed little shitbox. And
    all the more so because it seemed to be the default selection in
    the "compact" category for all the rental agencies.

    Well, the Cavalier was replaced by a car called the Cobalt. I
    rented one for a couple of days earlier this year. It's well-
    designed, well put together, attractive, and a hoot to drive.
    I live in the mountains, and I had a blast clipping apexes on
    the fifteen miles of winding two-lane between the freeway and
    my town as I was driving that car home. And mind you, it was
    a 4-door sedan with an automatic transmission.

    The interior was very well appointed for a car in that price
    category. There was still plenty of that ubiquitous GM gray
    plastic used for the dash and interior trim, but the fit and
    finish were far better than anything the Cavalier had to offer.
    I actually think I'd consider buying one if I were in the market
    for that class of car.

    I also rented a Malibu sedan a few years back. It impressed me
    also. The current iteration is undoubtedly even better.

    I recently purchased a used, low-mileage ('03) Chevy Silverado
    full-size pickup. Admittedly, I thought GM did pickups well
    even back when they didn't make any passenger cars that I liked.
    That being said, the thing handles well enough that I look for-
    ward to driving it to work one day a week.

    So the bottom line is, maybe you should drive more Chevrolets,
    and of more recent vintage, before you dismiss the entire make
    out of hand. And mind you, I'm no Chevy partisan. As far as
    passenger cars go, I'm first and foremost a Mercedes guy. And
    I'd probably have bought a Ford pickup if it weren't for the
    fact that the Chevy/GMC offered a more capacious extended cab
    in the model years I was interested in. (And all else being
    equal -- which it is -- I actually prefer the looks of the GMC.)



    Geoff

    --
    "We are like genitals unto the gods; they play with us
    for their amusement." -- Black Adder
     
  3. Geoff  Miller

    Geoff Miller Guest

    Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> writes:

    [Chevrolets]

    : If you can't provide reasons *why* you believe they suck, it's
    : hard to take your assertion at all seriously.

    > how about very low resale value?



    What models and years? And compared to what other makes, models
    and years?



    Geoff

    --
    "We are like genitals unto the gods; they play with us
    for their amusement." -- Black Adder
     
  4. Todd Allcock

    Todd Allcock Guest

    At 21 Jun 2007 05:36:28 +1000 Rod Speed wrote:

    > >> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, f---wit child.

    > >
    > > Are you my mummy?

    >
    > Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, f---wit child.


    Oh, for the love of sweet JESUS, I can't wait until this thread
    finally ends and the crossposting to the cellular newsgroups by these
    2-year-olds stops... We have enough childish cretins in the celular NGs
    already without needing to import more of them!
     
  5. chrisv

    chrisv Guest

    Geoff Miller wrote:

    >I also rented a Malibu sedan a few years back. It impressed me
    >also.


    I guess you are easier to please than I am. 8)
     
  6. On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:17:41 -0700, Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote
    (in article <elmop-B7A1AA.16174120062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>):

    > In article <137ihljl89962a1@corp.supernews.com>,
    > geoffm@lava.net (Geoff Miller) wrote:
    >
    >>> "Value" does not equal "it costs very little".

    >>
    >> It means "it costs very little but you get a lot for your money."
    >>
    >> Why do you insist on reading so much negative BS into such a simple,
    >> straightforward term?

    >
    > Oh, I don't. I understand value. It's generally the rest of the world,
    > populated by idiots and being manipulated by marketers, who have
    > bastardized the meaning of the word "value" to mean "the lowest price
    > thing we can still possibly call a thing".
    >
    >
    >> And if you don't like Chevies, fine; surely there's some other
    >> value-priced make of car you could plug into the analogy to make
    >> it work for you.

    >
    > Well, Chevies aren't a value. They may be low priced--that is, the cost
    > to acquire them is low--but they aren't a value.
    >


    Actually a Ferrari is real value. Buy it, drive it for a few years, take
    reasonable care of it, and sell it for more than you bought it for. If I had
    bought a 250 SWB in 1960 for $13,000 and kept it till today in tip-top shape,
    I could get a couple of million for it. If I'd bought an Enzo in 2004 for
    $650,000, I could sell it today for more than TWICE that! Show me another
    investment that will legitimately double your money in 3 years while allowing
    you to play with it?
     
  7. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    > Rod Speed wrote on [Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:36:28 +1000]:
    >> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:23:18 +1000]:
    >>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:34:44 +1000]:
    >>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:59:10 +1000]:
    >>>>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:26:11 +1000]:
    >>>>>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where can one legally download CD-quality music?
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of places.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Refusal to substantiate your claim noted.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> Your pathetically hoary old line ignored.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> OK. Name a place. I dare you.
    >>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> Just one.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> If you have paid for any format of a particular piece of music,
    >>>>>>>> you are legally entitled to download the CD quality copy,
    >>>>>>>> child.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> So, you're STILL dodging the challenge.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Nope.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yep.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>>> IOW, you're pulling things out of your arse.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Nope.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Yep.
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> The other obvious place is with music thats public domain,
    >>>>>> fuckwit child.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Ooooh, you tried to answer. Then followed up with an insult. How
    >>>>> wonderful you are. Did your penis grow after making that so witty
    >>>>> comment?
    >>>>
    >>>> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
    >>>
    >>> Are you my mummy?

    >>
    >> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.

    >
    > Do you feel like you won now?


    Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
     
  8. On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:09:09 -0700, Geoff Miller wrote
    (in article <137j5rl7klskc8c@corp.supernews.com>):

    >
    >
    > Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> writes:
    >
    > [Chevrolets]
    >
    >> If you can't provide reasons *why* you believe they suck, it's
    >> hard to take your assertion at all seriously.

    >
    >> how about very low resale value?

    >
    >
    > What models and years? And compared to what other makes, models
    > and years?
    >
    >
    >
    > Geoff
    >
    > --
    > "We are like genitals unto the gods; they play with us
    > for their amusement." -- Black Adder
    >


    American cars are, in my experience, generally not as good as Japanese cars
    of the same price, but there are exceptions.
     
  9. Shawn Hirn

    Shawn Hirn Guest

    In article <137igjchfh12301@corp.supernews.com>,
    geoffm@lava.net (Geoff Miller) wrote:

    > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> writes:
    >
    > > Its more convenient to have it all in the one device.

    >
    > > The only thing I have in addition to the phone now is the keys
    > > and the wallet and I would prefer to be able to do without those
    > > two.

    >
    > > I no longer even have lists anymore, they're in the phone and I
    > > dont bother with a watch anymore.

    >
    > The problem with that approach is that it's a single point of
    > potential failure. A friend of mine has one of those gizmos
    > that's a combination cell phone and PDA (a Treo or BlackBerry
    > or something like that). When she had to have the thing repaired
    > because she'd inadvertently dropped a heavy Cross ballpoint pen
    > point-down (natch) on the PDA screen, she found herself without
    > a PDA *or* a cell phone. Buying a device like that is an example
    > of what's known in military aviation circles as "bad headwork."


    If this is the same military who's doing such a lousy job in Iraq, I am
    not all that concerned with their opinion on handheld devices.

    > I have a cell phone and a Palm Pilot, and never the twain shall
    > meet, Mark. Oh, and a dedicated digital camera, too. I keep
    > the phone in the customary belt holster, and the camera and PDA
    > live in my backpack where they're always close at hand.


    Good for you. About a year ago, I replaced my separate cell phone and
    Palm Pilot with a Palm Treo 700p smart phone and even after having it
    stolen from me this weekend, I would never go back to separate devices.
    When I had a separate Palm and cell phone, I ended up spending too much
    time duplicating address book info on both units. With my Treo 700p, I
    like the ability to keep all my data on one device and have it tied to
    my cell phone and my computer nearly effortlessly. I can't wait until my
    new Treo 700p arrives in the mail, which should be by Friday.
     
  10. Kurt

    Kurt Guest

    In article <5dtgnkF1veb51U1@mid.individual.net>,
    "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

    > Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    > > In article <5dtdtuF36150sU1@mid.individual.net>,
    > > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    > >>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:23:18 +1000]:
    > >>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    > >>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:34:44 +1000]:
    > >>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    > >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:59:10 +1000]:
    > >>>>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    > >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:26:11 +1000]:
    > >>>>>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
    > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Where can one legally download CD-quality music?
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of places.
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>>> Refusal to substantiate your claim noted.
    > >>>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>>> Your pathetically hoary old line ignored.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> OK. Name a place. I dare you.
    > >>>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>>> Just one.
    > >>>>>>>>
    > >>>>>>>> If you have paid for any format of a particular piece of music,
    > >>>>>>>> you are legally entitled to download the CD quality copy,
    > >>>>>>>> child.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>>> So, you're STILL dodging the challenge.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Nope.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Yep.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>>> IOW, you're pulling things out of your arse.
    > >>>>>>
    > >>>>>> Nope.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Yep.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>>> The other obvious place is with music thats public domain,
    > >>>>>> fuckwit child.
    > >>>>>
    > >>>>> Ooooh, you tried to answer. Then followed up with an insult. How
    > >>>>> wonderful you are. Did your penis grow after making that so witty
    > >>>>> comment?
    > >>>>
    > >>>> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
    > >>>
    > >>> Are you my mummy?
    > >>
    > >> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.

    > >
    > > Why don't you guys get a room and spare us the penis contest?

    >
    > Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.


    But not you...

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  11. Kurt

    Kurt Guest

    In article <137j51favie4s4a@corp.supernews.com>,
    geoffm@lava.net (Geoff Miller) wrote:


    > So the bottom line is, maybe you should drive more Chevrolets,
    > and of more recent vintage, before you dismiss the entire make
    > out of hand. And mind you, I'm no Chevy partisan. As far as
    > passenger cars go, I'm first and foremost a Mercedes guy. And
    > I'd probably have bought a Ford pickup if it weren't for the
    > fact that the Chevy/GMC offered a more capacious extended cab
    > in the model years I was interested in. (And all else being
    > equal -- which it is -- I actually prefer the looks of the GMC.)
    >
    >

    Mercedes hasn't made a good car in years. I had a '66 230S (the
    quintessential Beirut taxicab) a few years back. Overbuilt and drove
    for ages. The new ones have quality issues. I have a friend with one of
    the 350 SUVs (brand new). Piece of crap. At the dealer every month for
    work. Left her stranded for than a few times.

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  12. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    > In article <5dtgnkF1veb51U1@mid.individual.net>,
    > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    >>> In article <5dtdtuF36150sU1@mid.individual.net>,
    >>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>
    >>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 14:23:18 +1000]:
    >>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 13:34:44 +1000]:
    >>>>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 12:59:10 +1000]:
    >>>>>>>>>> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>>>>>> Rod Speed wrote on [Wed, 20 Jun 2007 10:26:11 +1000]:
    >>>>>>>>>>>> chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> wrote
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where can one legally download CD-quality music?
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Plenty of places.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>>> Refusal to substantiate your claim noted.
    >>>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>>> Your pathetically hoary old line ignored.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> OK. Name a place. I dare you.
    >>>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>>> Just one.
    >>>>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>>> If you have paid for any format of a particular piece of
    >>>>>>>>>> music, you are legally entitled to download the CD quality
    >>>>>>>>>> copy, child.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> So, you're STILL dodging the challenge.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Nope.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Yep.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>>> IOW, you're pulling things out of your arse.
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Nope.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Yep.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> The other obvious place is with music thats public domain,
    >>>>>>>> fuckwit child.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> Ooooh, you tried to answer. Then followed up with an insult. How
    >>>>>>> wonderful you are. Did your penis grow after making that so
    >>>>>>> witty comment?
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> Are you my mummy?
    >>>>
    >>>> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
    >>>
    >>> Why don't you guys get a room and spare us the penis contest?

    >>
    >> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.

    >
    > But not you...


    Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
     
  13. Kurt

    Kurt Guest

    In article <elmop-249A9E.21490820062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:

    > In article <labolide-B7020A.18271620062007@news.giganews.com>,
    > Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    >
    > > In article <5dtgnkF1veb51U1@mid.individual.net>,
    > > "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    > > <snip>
    > > >
    > > > Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.

    > >
    > > But not you...

    >
    > Rod Speed apparently has something for fucking 2 year old dead children.
    >
    > Interesting.


    I sense anger and self-esteem issues.

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  14. On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:32:17 -0700, Kurt wrote
    (in article <labolide-A88E68.18321720062007@news.giganews.com>):

    > In article <137j51favie4s4a@corp.supernews.com>,
    > geoffm@lava.net (Geoff Miller) wrote:
    >
    >
    >> So the bottom line is, maybe you should drive more Chevrolets,
    >> and of more recent vintage, before you dismiss the entire make
    >> out of hand. And mind you, I'm no Chevy partisan. As far as
    >> passenger cars go, I'm first and foremost a Mercedes guy. And
    >> I'd probably have bought a Ford pickup if it weren't for the
    >> fact that the Chevy/GMC offered a more capacious extended cab
    >> in the model years I was interested in. (And all else being
    >> equal -- which it is -- I actually prefer the looks of the GMC.)
    >>
    >>

    > Mercedes hasn't made a good car in years. I had a '66 230S (the
    > quintessential Beirut taxicab) a few years back. Overbuilt and drove
    > for ages. The new ones have quality issues. I have a friend with one of
    > the 350 SUVs (brand new). Piece of crap. At the dealer every month for
    > work. Left her stranded for than a few times.
    >
    >


    I question the desirability or wisdom of having so much of a car controlled
    by a computer. Cars today are MUCH TOO COMPLICATED. No wonder they have
    reliability problems. The only people who seem able to really pull it off are
    the Japanese, I understand that even Japanese cars aren't as bulletproof as
    they once were.
     
  15. Kurt

    Kurt Guest

    In article <0001HW.C29F323A01B105E3F0182648@news.comcast.net>,
    George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:

    > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:32:17 -0700, Kurt wrote
    > (in article <labolide-A88E68.18321720062007@news.giganews.com>):
    >
    > > In article <137j51favie4s4a@corp.supernews.com>,
    > > geoffm@lava.net (Geoff Miller) wrote:
    > >
    > >
    > >> So the bottom line is, maybe you should drive more Chevrolets,
    > >> and of more recent vintage, before you dismiss the entire make
    > >> out of hand. And mind you, I'm no Chevy partisan. As far as
    > >> passenger cars go, I'm first and foremost a Mercedes guy. And
    > >> I'd probably have bought a Ford pickup if it weren't for the
    > >> fact that the Chevy/GMC offered a more capacious extended cab
    > >> in the model years I was interested in. (And all else being
    > >> equal -- which it is -- I actually prefer the looks of the GMC.)
    > >>
    > >>

    > > Mercedes hasn't made a good car in years. I had a '66 230S (the
    > > quintessential Beirut taxicab) a few years back. Overbuilt and drove
    > > for ages. The new ones have quality issues. I have a friend with one of
    > > the 350 SUVs (brand new). Piece of crap. At the dealer every month for
    > > work. Left her stranded for than a few times.
    > >
    > >

    >
    > I question the desirability or wisdom of having so much of a car controlled
    > by a computer. Cars today are MUCH TOO COMPLICATED. No wonder they have
    > reliability problems. The only people who seem able to really pull it off are
    > the Japanese, I understand that even Japanese cars aren't as bulletproof as
    > they once were.


    I sold my '95 Infiniti J30 last year with 97K miles. Never had anything
    other than regular servicing. Drove it all over the west and southwest.
    No rattles, and never a problem. Amazing.

    The Daimler Chrysler merger hurt Mercedes the most, when Mercedes lost
    control of where the parts came from.

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  16. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    George Graves <gmgraves2@comcast.net> wrote:
    > On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 18:32:17 -0700, Kurt wrote
    > (in article <labolide-A88E68.18321720062007@news.giganews.com>):
    >
    >> In article <137j51favie4s4a@corp.supernews.com>,
    >> geoffm@lava.net (Geoff Miller) wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>> So the bottom line is, maybe you should drive more Chevrolets,
    >>> and of more recent vintage, before you dismiss the entire make
    >>> out of hand. And mind you, I'm no Chevy partisan. As far as
    >>> passenger cars go, I'm first and foremost a Mercedes guy. And
    >>> I'd probably have bought a Ford pickup if it weren't for the
    >>> fact that the Chevy/GMC offered a more capacious extended cab
    >>> in the model years I was interested in. (And all else being
    >>> equal -- which it is -- I actually prefer the looks of the GMC.)
    >>>
    >>>

    >> Mercedes hasn't made a good car in years. I had a '66 230S (the
    >> quintessential Beirut taxicab) a few years back. Overbuilt and drove
    >> for ages. The new ones have quality issues. I have a friend with one
    >> of the 350 SUVs (brand new). Piece of crap. At the dealer every
    >> month for work. Left her stranded for than a few times.


    > I question the desirability or wisdom of having so much of a car
    > controlled by a computer. Cars today are MUCH TOO COMPLICATED.


    They dont have any real say on that given the legislated mandated
    detail on what the car has to do emissions wise etc.

    > No wonder they have reliability problems. The only people
    > who seem able to really pull it off are the Japanese,


    Fantasy.

    > I understand that even Japanese cars
    > aren't as bulletproof as they once were.


    Sure, but thats due to the legislated emission controls etc.
     
  17. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    > In article <elmop-249A9E.21490820062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
    > "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
    >
    >> In article <labolide-B7020A.18271620062007@news.giganews.com>,
    >> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    >>
    >>> In article <5dtgnkF1veb51U1@mid.individual.net>,
    >>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>> <snip>
    >>>>
    >>>> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
    >>>
    >>> But not you...

    >>
    >> Rod Speed apparently has something for fucking 2 year old dead
    >> children.
    >>
    >> Interesting.

    >
    > I sense anger and self-esteem issues.


    Usual utterly mindless silly stuff. I just call a spade a spade and a fuckwit child a fuckwit child.

    You get to like that or lump it.
     
  18. chrisv

    chrisv Guest

    Justin wrote:

    >Rod Speed wrote on [Thu, 21 Jun 2007 05:36:28 +1000]:
    >>
    >> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.

    >
    >Do you feel like you won now?


    Well, he did, until you ruined it by responding again.

    Just let the kook have the last word.
     
  19. John Navas

    John Navas Guest

    On Wed, 20 Jun 2007 16:54:55 GMT, "Kevin Weaver"
    <kevinkeithweaver@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
    <zZcei.17179$y_7.15963@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net>:

    >Sounds like Navas. :)


    Grow up.

    --
    Best regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS:
    John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ>
     
  20. Rod Speed

    Rod Speed Guest

    Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    > Rod Speed wrote on [Fri, 22 Jun 2007 04:34:38 +1000]:
    >> Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:
    >>> Rod Speed wrote on [Thu, 21 Jun 2007 13:27:43 +1000]:
    >>>> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>> In article <elmop-249A9E.21490820062007@nntp1.usenetserver.com>,
    >>>>> "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
    >>>>>
    >>>>>> In article <labolide-B7020A.18271620062007@news.giganews.com>,
    >>>>>> Kurt <labolide@spacegmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>>> In article <5dtgnkF1veb51U1@mid.individual.net>,
    >>>>>>> "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:
    >>>>>>> <snip>
    >>>>>>>>
    >>>>>>>> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
    >>>>>>>
    >>>>>>> But not you...
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Rod Speed apparently has something for fucking 2 year old dead
    >>>>>> children.
    >>>>>>
    >>>>>> Interesting.
    >>>>>
    >>>>> I sense anger and self-esteem issues.
    >>>>
    >>>> Usual utterly mindless silly stuff. I just call a spade a spade and
    >>>> a fuckwit child a fuckwit child.
    >>>>
    >>>> You get to like that or lump it.
    >>>
    >>> Does it make you feel manly?

    >>
    >> Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.


    > You're beginning to lose now. Oh hell, you already lost.


    Any 2 year old could leave that for dead, fuckwit child.
     

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