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The Murderous Lies of Bush, Blair and the Jew Cabal

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Awake, Oct 6, 2003.

  1. In article <Xns940F754AC8B05ks992a@216.168.3.44>,
    reason <reason@normal.gov> wrote:

    > The steps were followed in Florida, and the votes were appriately counted.


    That is what was being argued until the Supreme Court ruled: STOP
    COUNTING,
    and appointed Bush as President.


    GORE WON.
     



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  2. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Thu, 09 Oct 2003 15:29:17 -0000, reason <reason@normal.gov> posted
    in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >Sergei Kosonov <skosonov@institute.ru> wrote in news:skosonov-
    >6046F3.07382109102003@news04.east.earthlink.net:
    >> In article <bm3hot$i1gmn$1@ID-65688.news.uni-berlin.de>,
    >> "Stuart" <info@brainsys.com> wrote:


    >>> Doesn't say much about democracy - does it?


    >> Gore won in 2000, so there you are.


    >> Just reading Al Franken's book. It's wonderful.


    >I can't help responding to those who are so uninformed about the US and its
    >governmental formation.


    >The electoral college elects the president.


    Disenfranchising voters (by moving polling places, by overt and covert
    threats, etc.) has nothing to do with the EC. If there was nothing to
    the disenfranchisement claims, why did the Republican Party settle the
    suit out of court?
     
  3. antispam

    antispam Guest

    "reason" <reason@normal.gov> wrote in message
    news:Xns940F754AC8B05ks992a@216.168.3.44...
    > Sergei Kosonov <skosonov@institute.ru> wrote in news:skosonov-
    > 6046F3.07382109102003@news04.east.earthlink.net:
    >
    > > In article <bm3hot$i1gmn$1@ID-65688.news.uni-berlin.de>,
    > > "Stuart" <info@brainsys.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Doesn't say much about democracy - does it?

    > >
    > > Gore won in 2000, so there you are.
    > >
    > > Just reading Al Franken's book. It's wonderful.
    > >

    >
    > I can't help responding to those who are so uninformed about the US and

    its
    > governmental formation.
    >
    > The electoral college elects the president. The number of delegates are
    > determined based on state populations, and selected by the candidate who
    > win the state (by whatever margin). The votes that are counted are
    > determined by the town/city/county/etc supervisor of elections. In
    > Florida, where I suspect that the complainer is referring to, the three
    > main counties where there were concerns (Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm
    > Beach) recounted ballots. However, the Secretary of State is the one to
    > certify the elections (ie. supposed to have the final say to verify that
    > the process and results are fair and accurate).
    >
    > OPINION: The fact that ANY of the courts were involved shows how the US
    > society is far too litigious
    >
    > The steps were followed in Florida, and the votes were appriately counted.
    > The people who complained about difficult ballots should complain to the
    > DEMOCRAT who ran the Palm Beach County elections.
    >
    > Basically, it wasn't the chads that were the problem in Florida, it was
    > voters who were bussed to the polls and told who to vote for -- without

    any
    > education on HOW to physically vote.


    You're hitting at the real problem here. The simple fact is, the tenets of
    functioning democracy rests on an informed public. Bussing people to the
    polling stations and telling them how to vote is not the way democracy is
    supposed to work. Democracy works only when people are provided with full
    information about the issues at hand and can then judge for themselves how
    they should vote, for otherwise democracy is vulnerable to demagoguery and a
    tyranny of the majority. Keep in mind that both Hitler and Mussolini used
    democratic mechanisms in their rise to power. In particular, the biggest
    problem with pure democracy is that pure democracies will always trample the
    rights of minorities, the perfect example being Nazi genocidal policies that
    were popular with the majority of Germans at the time. Obviously
    eliminating democracy is also a bad idea. The only solution is to combine
    democracy with an educated public.



    >
    > Like it or not, the US has a very logical (and mostly fair) method for
    > electing/recalling/impeaching officials. Those who feel that Bush has

    done
    > poorly should double their efforts to find a successor they prefer; those
    > who feel that Bush has done an admirable job despite extremely difficult
    > situations should ensure they get their message out.
     
  4. antispam

    antispam Guest

    "reason" <reason@normal.gov> wrote in message
    news:Xns940F754AC8B05ks992a@216.168.3.44...
    > Sergei Kosonov <skosonov@institute.ru> wrote in news:skosonov-
    > 6046F3.07382109102003@news04.east.earthlink.net:
    >
    > > In article <bm3hot$i1gmn$1@ID-65688.news.uni-berlin.de>,
    > > "Stuart" <info@brainsys.com> wrote:
    > >
    > >> Doesn't say much about democracy - does it?

    > >
    > > Gore won in 2000, so there you are.
    > >
    > > Just reading Al Franken's book. It's wonderful.
    > >

    >
    > I can't help responding to those who are so uninformed about the US and

    its
    > governmental formation.
    >
    > The electoral college elects the president. The number of delegates are
    > determined based on state populations, and selected by the candidate who
    > win the state (by whatever margin). The votes that are counted are
    > determined by the town/city/county/etc supervisor of elections. In
    > Florida, where I suspect that the complainer is referring to, the three
    > main counties where there were concerns (Miami-Dade, Broward, and Palm
    > Beach) recounted ballots. However, the Secretary of State is the one to
    > certify the elections (ie. supposed to have the final say to verify that
    > the process and results are fair and accurate).
    >
    > OPINION: The fact that ANY of the courts were involved shows how the US
    > society is far too litigious
    >
    > The steps were followed in Florida, and the votes were appriately counted.
    > The people who complained about difficult ballots should complain to the
    > DEMOCRAT who ran the Palm Beach County elections.
    >
    > Basically, it wasn't the chads that were the problem in Florida, it was
    > voters who were bussed to the polls and told who to vote for -- without

    any
    > education on HOW to physically vote.
    >
    > Like it or not, the US has a very logical (and mostly fair) method for
    > electing/recalling/impeaching officials. Those who feel that Bush has

    done
    > poorly should double their efforts to find a successor they prefer; those
    > who feel that Bush has done an admirable job despite extremely difficult
    > situations should ensure they get their message out.
     

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