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This has to be the most stupid reason I've ever heard for hating VZW

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by The Ghost of General Lee, Oct 1, 2003.

  1. On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 02:05:52 -0000, wmbray@hotmail.com (William Bray)
    wrote:

    >Frankly, they got a free ride. Are you sure they are mad at the company
    >and not you? You cut them off. This sounds like a misdirected rant.
    >Why did you decided to stop being their sugar daddy?


    No, they're not at all mad at me. They've apologized profusely to me
    about the incident. Keep in mind we've been friends for over 20
    years, and the matter just wasn't worth throwing out a friendship that
    has lasted that long. I'm sure some will question the value of their
    friendship considering the position they put me in, but I don't and
    that's all that really matters. All I had to put up with were some
    phone calls from BAM, and fronting them $47.15 for a few months. Like
    I said in another post, no big deal. The only thing that really
    pissed me off was when I co-signed for them, I asked them to let me
    know if they got behind and I would help them out to keep their credit
    clean with BAM, so they could transfer the service into their name
    after six months of good payment history. They didn't do that, and I
    took them to task on that. Pride will cause people to do irrational
    things sometimes.

    Now for full disclosure. They had gotten behind during the summer of
    2001 and I started getting the phone calls from the collections
    department. I just told collections I would bring it up with them. I
    knew they often got a little behind in their bills, but deep down,
    they are good and honest people. She got upset that BAM was bothering
    me, and pleaded with them to not call me and to work with her on her
    outstanding balance. I can see both sides of the issue, and I know
    VZW (then Bell Atlantic Mobile) has a business to run, and has to
    treat all of their customers equally. I believe I had the service cut
    off on the 3rd Tuesday of August of 2001. Two days later, her husband
    fell ill (almost complete liver failure due to medications he takes
    for diabetes - damn, I know TOO many diabetics) and was in a coma for
    almost 2 weeks. So I felt it inappropriate to bring it up, and the
    issue was forgotten by them. I just paid the balance off for them and
    didn't mention it again.

    Her husband eventually recovered somewhat (although he's still very
    sick) and was put on disability. When they got their first disability
    back payment check, they bought me a new DVD player in appreciation
    for my support during their difficulties. That washed it with me, and
    I hold no grudge. I chalk it up to karma. Now, I just sit and listen
    when she goes on her anti-VZW rants, just glad her husband is still
    alive to hear them, too.

    So, what was the purpose of my original post? I don't know, maybe it
    was just to illustrate how the most extraneous things can cause
    dislike for a company. I probably wouldn't have brought it up at all
    if not for all the VZW bashing here in the past couple of months. It
    just got me wondering why some of these people hate VZW, and whether
    their dislike was as baseless as my friend's.



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  2. 127.0.0.1

    127.0.0.1 Guest

    "Disgruntled Rep" <getbent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vnp6inhm08a48e@corp.supernews.com...
    > Hey General ...
    > Too bad that a/ your friend. I'd have to say that YOU ARE the good
    > friend for wanting to help her out and that SHE IS the bad one for
    > putting in that spot. I'd say that life is full of circumstance and shit
    > happens, but that fact that she's still blaming it on the company when
    > she was the one that didn't pay the bill kinda speaks volumes a/ her
    > character! I think that worst thing ever - and your friend isn't the
    > first person I've seen do something like this - is an individuals lack
    > of willing to take responsibility of their own actions. If in your
    > shoes, I would simply tell my friend that I did not want to hear another
    > word a/ that issue and if they insisted I would just tell them to have a
    > good day/night and talk to them another time.
    > Ignore the asses who seem to have sex on the brain. Obviously they need
    > to get laid. Then they could talk a/ something else and maybe be
    > productive.
    > 127.0.0.1 - Be productive or shut the hell up! I'm sure that you're not
    > a complete idiot, you might even have something insightful to say every
    > now and then. But in your posts here - you're being an asshole. No
    > frills, no thrills - just an asshole. And what good does that do?
    >
    >


    his post was a cry for sympathy and not meant as a productive conversation.
    please re-read it again.
    I'm sure you (such as I) have been in that situation (co-signing) and had
    better judgment then the general.

    this is a topic for amateur psychology. the general opened himself up to a
    freudian attack.
    at least he has learned this lesson "don't expect sympathy from one's own
    poor judgement"

    btw, never tell anyone to "shut the hell up!" in a free society (or NG). not
    only is that bad manners, but it invokes hostility and represses the respect
    of your peers.


    -a|ex
    (i have the right to be an @sshole. are you holier than thou?)
  3. Matt Valeri

    Matt Valeri Guest

    "127.0.0.1" <unavailable@spam-me.not> wrote in article
    <Zz6fb.13709$f11.4291@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>:
    >
    > are you holier than thou?)
    >


    Only on every second Thursday and on major holidays.

    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  4. David S

    David S Guest

    On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:37:11 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    <ghost@general.lee> chose to add this to the great equation of life, the
    universe, and everything:

    >I got a call from a friend of mine earlier tonight, and was explaining
    >the trouble I had a couple of weeks ago in trying to reach 911 on my
    >VZW cell phone. She used to be with VZW, but 2 years ago, she got mad
    >at VZW and switched to Cingular, and ever since has been trying to
    >talk me into switching over. She always has something bad to say
    >about VZW, just hates them to no end. So I had to listen to yet
    >another VZW bitch rant again tonight. Why, you may ask, does she hate
    >them so?
    >
    >She got and stayed over 2 months behind on her bill, and after
    >repeated calls from their collections department and unfulfilled
    >promises by her to pay up, they turned to the co-signer on her
    >account, who told them he didn't want to hear any more of it. He
    >would come in and pay off her balance on the condition they cut her
    >service off immediately. So she hates VZW because they wouldn't let
    >her keep running up her bill without paying it.
    >
    >And who was that unfortunate co-signer?
    >
    >
    >Me.


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  5. His post was not necessarily a "cry for sympathy". It was more of a rant
    to just get it off his chest. He was sharing w/ the class a story of his
    not-so-honest, not-so-mature friend.
    He never asked for your sympathy. No where in his post did it even
    really imply that he wanted your sympathy. He only mentions being the
    co-signer as a kind of "learned my lesson" afterthought. Unfortunately
    that's the way life is - you learn by doing. Or you learn by someone
    sharing their experience.
    You made an assumption. Just b/c you (or someone you know) may have
    co-signed once b/c it upped your (their) chances of getting laid does
    not mean that he did so for the same reason. I know it *may* be a
    stretch, but there's the *slight* chance that he was just helping out a
    friend. Who, unfortunately, took advantage of that. But again -lesson
    learned in his case.
    If being nice and respectful to other makes me "holier than thou" then I
    gladly accept that. I find it more than amusing that you actually wrote
    this: "not only is that bad manners, but it invokes hostility and
    represses the respect of your peers" ... that comment made by the same
    person that was offensive to the original poster and actually used the
    word "gonadz" ... Your above comment explains perfectly the reason why I
    posted to you. Your comments invoked hostility from myself and I'm sure
    that they didn't win you any respect - You actually just justified my
    entire response to you. I'm sorry, but you really are painting yourself
    as being a hypocrite.
    Maybe you would have the right to be an @hole if his post was a personal
    attack against you, but the post was a general rant. You're the one that
    turned this whole thing into something it wasn't by making the smutty
    comments.
    I am sorry for telling you to shut the hell up ... but man, if the shoe
    fits ...

    "127.0.0.1" <unavailable@spam-me.not> wrote in article
    <Zz6fb.13709$f11.4291@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>:
    >
    > "Disgruntled Rep" <getbent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:vnp6inhm08a48e@corp.supernews.com...
    > > Hey General ...
    > > Too bad that a/ your friend. I'd have to say that YOU ARE the good
    > > friend for wanting to help her out and that SHE IS the bad one for
    > > putting in that spot. I'd say that life is full of circumstance and shit
    > > happens, but that fact that she's still blaming it on the company when
    > > she was the one that didn't pay the bill kinda speaks volumes a/ her
    > > character! I think that worst thing ever - and your friend isn't the
    > > first person I've seen do something like this - is an individuals lack
    > > of willing to take responsibility of their own actions. If in your
    > > shoes, I would simply tell my friend that I did not want to hear another
    > > word a/ that issue and if they insisted I would just tell them to have a
    > > good day/night and talk to them another time.
    > > Ignore the asses who seem to have sex on the brain. Obviously they need
    > > to get laid. Then they could talk a/ something else and maybe be
    > > productive.
    > > 127.0.0.1 - Be productive or shut the hell up! I'm sure that you're not
    > > a complete idiot, you might even have something insightful to say every
    > > now and then. But in your posts here - you're being an asshole. No
    > > frills, no thrills - just an asshole. And what good does that do?
    > >
    > >

    >
    > his post was a cry for sympathy and not meant as a productive conversation.
    > please re-read it again.
    > I'm sure you (such as I) have been in that situation (co-signing) and had
    > better judgment then the general.
    >
    > this is a topic for amateur psychology. the general opened himself up to a
    > freudian attack.
    > at least he has learned this lesson "don't expect sympathy from one's own
    > poor judgement"
    >
    > btw, never tell anyone to "shut the hell up!" in a free society (or NG). not
    > only is that bad manners, but it invokes hostility and represses the respect
    > of your peers.
    >
    >
    > -a|ex
    > (i have the right to be an @sshole. are you holier than thou?)
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  6. 127.0.0.1

    127.0.0.1 Guest

    "Disgruntled Rep" <getbent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vnr4dfi0gig841@corp.supernews.com...

    - snippage -

    > I am sorry for telling you to shut the hell up ... but man, if the shoe
    > fits ...


    apology accepted (perspectives differs from each individual)
    shoes are a good anology. if it doesn't fit, make it fit.

    > "127.0.0.1" <unavailable@spam-me.not> wrote in article
    > <Zz6fb.13709$f11.4291@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>:
    > >
    > > "Disgruntled Rep" <getbent@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:vnp6inhm08a48e@corp.supernews.com...
    > > > 127.0.0.1 - Be productive or shut the hell up! I'm sure that you're

    not
    > > > a complete idiot, you might even have something insightful to say

    every
    > > > now and then. But in your posts here - you're being an asshole. No
    > > > frills, no thrills - just an asshole. And what good does that do?


    > > btw, never tell anyone to "shut the hell up!" in a free society (or NG).

    not
    > > only is that bad manners, but it invokes hostility and represses the

    respect
    > > of your peers.
    > >
    > >
    > > -a|ex
    > > (i have the right to be an @sshole. are you holier than thou?)
    > >
  7. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:37:11 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    <ghost@general.lee> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I got a call from a friend of mine earlier tonight, and was explaining
    >the trouble I had a couple of weeks ago in trying to reach 911 on my
    >VZW cell phone. She used to be with VZW, but 2 years ago, she got mad
    >at VZW and switched to Cingular, and ever since has been trying to
    >talk me into switching over. She always has something bad to say
    >about VZW, just hates them to no end. So I had to listen to yet
    >another VZW bitch rant again tonight. Why, you may ask, does she hate
    >them so?
    >
    >She got and stayed over 2 months behind on her bill, and after
    >repeated calls from their collections department and unfulfilled
    >promises by her to pay up, they turned to the co-signer on her
    >account, who told them he didn't want to hear any more of it. He
    >would come in and pay off her balance on the condition they cut her
    >service off immediately. So she hates VZW because they wouldn't let
    >her keep running up her bill without paying it.
    >
    >And who was that unfortunate co-signer?


    >Me.


    And she hates them and still considers you a friend? How long has she
    been looking at the world backwards?
  8. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 15:43:33 -0000, dmine45.REMOVETHIS@ATyahoo.DOTcom
    (Diamond Dave) posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >That's the whole reason why they have the pre-pay cell phones (Free-up)


    The dead-beats don't want that. If they had the money to pay for
    1,000 minutes every month they wouldn't need pre-pay.
  9. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 17:23:15 GMT, "127.0.0.1"
    <unavailable@spam-me.not> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >why didn't you loan them $300?


    Maybe because he wanted to keep the friendship?
  10. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:05:13 GMT, "127.0.0.1"
    <unavailable@spam-me.not> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >his post was a cry for sympathy


    GOGL's post was a cry of "do a lot of the anti-VZW rants on here come
    from such stupid reasons?" He even said so. Not everyone keeps his
    thoughts in his pants - only those who aren't getting any.

    >btw, never tell anyone to "shut the hell up!" in a free society (or NG). not
    >only is that bad manners, but it invokes hostility and represses the respect
    >of your peers.


    Not in this case.
  11. m rae

    m rae Guest

    Great story. Word to the wise that she calls her friends....no become a
    co signer, this will happen with any company, and they will get the co
    signers money.

    Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in article
    <q0kunvsjbf3kqlknk76r4ik10uitkd90h2@Pern.rk>:
    > On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:37:11 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    > <ghost@general.lee> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >I got a call from a friend of mine earlier tonight, and was explaining
    > >the trouble I had a couple of weeks ago in trying to reach 911 on my
    > >VZW cell phone. She used to be with VZW, but 2 years ago, she got mad
    > >at VZW and switched to Cingular, and ever since has been trying to
    > >talk me into switching over. She always has something bad to say
    > >about VZW, just hates them to no end. So I had to listen to yet
    > >another VZW bitch rant again tonight. Why, you may ask, does she hate
    > >them so?
    > >
    > >She got and stayed over 2 months behind on her bill, and after
    > >repeated calls from their collections department and unfulfilled
    > >promises by her to pay up, they turned to the co-signer on her
    > >account, who told them he didn't want to hear any more of it. He
    > >would come in and pay off her balance on the condition they cut her
    > >service off immediately. So she hates VZW because they wouldn't let
    > >her keep running up her bill without paying it.
    > >
    > >And who was that unfortunate co-signer?

    >
    > >Me.

    >
    > And she hates them and still considers you a friend? How long has she
    > been looking at the world backwards?


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  12. On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:05:35 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    >On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:05:13 GMT, "127.0.0.1"
    ><unavailable@spam-me.not> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>his post was a cry for sympathy

    >
    >GOGL's post was a cry of "do a lot of the anti-VZW rants on here come
    >from such stupid reasons?" He even said so. Not everyone keeps his
    >thoughts in his pants - only those who aren't getting any.


    I don't understand Mr. dead end IP's logic that it was a cry of
    sympathy when I consider the debt to have been repaid. Not surprising
    the point of my post flew right over his head, and even less
    surprising it *didn't* fly over yours, Al.

    Kudos!

    >>btw, never tell anyone to "shut the hell up!" in a free society (or NG). not
    >>only is that bad manners, but it invokes hostility and represses the respect
    >>of your peers.

    >
    >Not in this case.


    Mr. dead end IP trying to tell someone what they cannot say in defense
    to someone telling him to shut up? Am I the only one who sees the
    irony here? Glad I plonked his sorry ass. Wish others would do the
    same. Wondering if he's our little e-tard who started the Nextel vs.
    VZW crap a few weeks ago.
  13. On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 22:57:09 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    >On Thu, 02 Oct 2003 00:37:11 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    ><ghost@general.lee> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>I got a call from a friend of mine earlier tonight, and was explaining
    >>the trouble I had a couple of weeks ago in trying to reach 911 on my
    >>VZW cell phone. She used to be with VZW, but 2 years ago, she got mad
    >>at VZW and switched to Cingular, and ever since has been trying to
    >>talk me into switching over. She always has something bad to say
    >>about VZW, just hates them to no end. So I had to listen to yet
    >>another VZW bitch rant again tonight. Why, you may ask, does she hate
    >>them so?
    >>
    >>She got and stayed over 2 months behind on her bill, and after
    >>repeated calls from their collections department and unfulfilled
    >>promises by her to pay up, they turned to the co-signer on her
    >>account, who told them he didn't want to hear any more of it. He
    >>would come in and pay off her balance on the condition they cut her
    >>service off immediately. So she hates VZW because they wouldn't let
    >>her keep running up her bill without paying it.
    >>
    >>And who was that unfortunate co-signer?

    >
    >>Me.

    >
    >And she hates them and still considers you a friend? How long has she
    >been looking at the world backwards?


    I could regale you with stories, but, in the interest of remaining
    on-topic, I won't. I'll just let it stand by stating I'm a firm
    believer in the saying, "A friend in need is a friend indeed."
  14. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:49:35 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    <ghost@general.lee> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 23:05:35 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:
    >>On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 04:05:13 GMT, "127.0.0.1"
    >><unavailable@spam-me.not> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:


    >>>his post was a cry for sympathy


    >>GOGL's post was a cry of "do a lot of the anti-VZW rants on here come
    >>from such stupid reasons?" He even said so. Not everyone keeps his
    >>thoughts in his pants - only those who aren't getting any.


    >I don't understand Mr. dead end IP's logic that it was a cry of
    >sympathy when I consider the debt to have been repaid. Not surprising
    >the point of my post flew right over his head, and even less
    >surprising it *didn't* fly over yours, Al.


    >Kudos!


    For being able to read? You stated your entire point in plain words.

    >>>btw, never tell anyone to "shut the hell up!" in a free society (or NG). not
    >>>only is that bad manners, but it invokes hostility and represses the respect
    >>>of your peers.


    >>Not in this case.


    >Mr. dead end IP trying to tell someone what they cannot say in defense
    >to someone telling him to shut up? Am I the only one who sees the
    >irony here?


    Probably. His ilk burned out my irony meter a long time ago.
  15. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Sat, 04 Oct 2003 20:53:07 -0400, The Ghost of General Lee
    <ghost@general.lee> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I could regale you with stories, but, in the interest of remaining
    >on-topic, I won't. I'll just let it stand by stating I'm a firm
    >believer in the saying, "A friend in need is a friend indeed."


    Hey, if they're really good friends, far be it from me to mention the
    word "pest". :)

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