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"Urgency" Use Cellular Services

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Mike Roman, Jan 25, 2004.

  1. Isaiah Beard

    Isaiah Beard Guest

    Jim Ancona wrote:


    > By far the best prepaid deal I've seen is from Callplus/Locus Telecom.
    > They resell time on AT&T's TDMA network, which means the phones work
    > just about anywhere.


    My concern is that people on ATT's TDMA netowrk have in many cases
    reported a degradation in service as they migrate to GSM. So, this
    prepaid TDMA may not work as well as it has over time.


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  2. Prepay

    Prepay Guest

    Short of it: Almost anyone selling pre-paid can help you activate your own
    CDMA phone. There shouldn't be any extra fees. Pay $30, get $30 of
    "charge" into your phone, plus bonus minutes if currently offered. Your
    phone/esn, verizonwireless's pre-paid network. Easy enough.

    To Stanley's response: Sounds like that person keeps the $35 activation.
    They make some part of the $30 starter card in commission, but for sure,
    they don't get the $35+30 as profit. Or at least, we wouldn't.
    PP

    Long of it: While not an "offer to sell", some information: If you send us
    an email (contact us), we'd be happy to help you set you up a pre-paid
    account, with a Central Illinois Phone number. You provide the cdma
    phone(with esn) information, buy $30 starter minutes. This gets you $30
    "into your phone account" plus any bonus minutes currently being offered.
    Neat, pay $30, get $30, ain't news groups great!

    I'm pretty sure that any prepaid seller can do this for you; but they may
    require you to buy the phone from them, or charge you an activation fee.
    Most wouldn't, we don't.

    The Process:
    - call or email us, as we can't sell using the web (rules, rules, rules)
    - you provide the phone and give us the phone's ESN number. Tell us who you
    are name/address/zip/home phone (no ss# or credit check, nothing like that),
    we run the application and we get the new phone number for you and activate
    into the system.
    - we ask you to do a *228 on the phone. Now you tell us if it worked (we'll
    tell you how)
    <pause> this tells us if the phone will activate, and so far you haven't
    spent any money. If successful:
    - now you send us $30 cash/credit card/paypal/certified check
    - we give you your new phone number (although if the *228 worked, you should
    see it in the phone already), instructions and an activation code <poof> you
    are active. Buy your next minutes from anyone, or email us again and we'll
    sell you more minutes. Ebay is another source of recharging your phone (at
    least others do it, I don't)

    What do we get: we get an activation that counts toward our quota. No
    activation fee, $30 of value for $30 paid. If that sounds fair, drop us a
    note. In addition to the quota, we make less than $5. Verizon does not
    allow us to discount the card (per contract), so we don't.

    We don't usually offer products for sale via this group, but the above was
    consistent with the thread we were following: PP

    prepaid@allamericancommunications.biz

    > "Stanley Reynolds" <nospam_stanley_reynolds@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    > news:6dydnXFQ6LqBVordRVn-hQ@pghconnect.com...
    > > You can buy your re-up card from him or anyone else.
    > > I think the $35 plus $30 is all profit for the store or he would not do
    > > this, my guess the sells more cards and makes his profits that way. I

    did
    > > buy my first card from him after my phone was activated. I've seen other
    > > deals where $30+tax and you end up with your phone active and $30 air

    time
    > > but then I've paid $60 to activate my own phone with $30 airtime. Like
    > > anyone who is short of cash live and learn, then go look for the best

    > deal.
    > >
    > > Stanley
    > > Catch you can only get FL numbers not a catch for me I wanted a FL

    number.
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  3. "Dr. WireMORE" <Dr.WireMORE@vzw-midwest.com> wrote in message
    news:kkPRb.5395$BA2.5383@newssvr26.news.prodigy.com...
    > The slightest correction on what the $30 Setup Card does: It does 2

    things:
    > 1)is the initial setup for your phone, and is required as part of getting
    > your initial phone number. 2)The $30 does translate to $30 of

    value/minutes
    > into your phone. 3) Many times there is a special bonus with the starter
    > card, like some bonus minutes.
    >
    > The $30 re-up card assumes you already have a working number; adds $30 of
    > value, and may have it's own bonus (but usually different from above).
    >
    > There is no mandatory activation fee. However, the VZW web site says that
    > an activation fee may be up to $35 and has nothing to do with either the
    > starter card or the re-up card. It is charged by the POS (if charged at
    > all) and we charge $35 activation when the customer provides their own
    > phone. If we provide the phone, there is no $35 activation fee. Again

    the
    > activation fee is "ours" and is not charged by VZW. Don't exactly know

    why
    > they mention the activation fee... but there is little profit in a pre-pay
    > for the POS, so the money is made on either the phone or the activation

    fee.
    >
    > And why charge anything.... to stay in business, the smallest of profits

    are
    > required.
    >

    There is a store in FL (found him on ebay) that will waive all starup fee's
    and setup your phone for free. Yes free, not cell phone company free, but he
    sets your phone up with the FL number of your choice no money, no credit,
    ect...
    You can buy your re-up card from him or anyone else.
    I think the $35 plus $30 is all profit for the store or he would not do
    this, my guess the sells more cards and makes his profits that way. I did
    buy my first card from him after my phone was activated. I've seen other
    deals where $30+tax and you end up with your phone active and $30 air time
    but then I've paid $60 to activate my own phone with $30 airtime. Like
    anyone who is short of cash live and learn, then go look for the best deal.

    Stanley
    Catch you can only get FL numbers not a catch for me I wanted a FL number.
  4. On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 14:05:04 GMT, "Dr. WireMORE"
    <Dr.WireMORE@vzw-midwest.com> wrote:

    >The slightest correction on what the $30 Setup Card does: It does 2 things:
    >1)is the initial setup for your phone, and is required as part of getting
    >your initial phone number. 2)The $30 does translate to $30 of value/minutes
    >into your phone. 3) Many times there is a special bonus with the starter
    >card, like some bonus minutes.


    That's probably where my difference was. My setup fee didn't come
    with any minutes, as I used my retired QCP-820 as my Free-up phone.
  5. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:10:35 GMT, "Scott Nelson"
    <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >True. The only thing about doing it that way is that Verizon is turning off
    >AMPS "Paging" outbound, which means you can call out but nobody can call you
    >in certain areas when you do this. Plus, if she buys a new phone, why bother
    >with putting the older phone back on the account at that point?


    >Or are you saying, she buy a newer phone and put it on the old AMPS only
    >account?
    >Which won't work as the account needs to actually have the digital service
    >feature turned on.
    >Holdover from years ago when digital was actually a feature you paid extra
    >for.
    >CS never sees this but happens in background and is plan specific now.


    >Or am I missing your point? ;-)


    Maybe I'm missing your point.

    If she wants a digital phone she doesn't want her old AMPS plan. If
    she wants her old AMPS plan she doesn't want a digital phone. What am
    *I* missing?
  6. Scott Nelson

    Scott Nelson Guest

    "Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
    news:vvfe10te46pqq39ethps1ib1163k82g45a@Pern.rk...
    > On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:10:35 GMT, "Scott Nelson"
    > <spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    > >True. The only thing about doing it that way is that Verizon is turning

    off
    > >AMPS "Paging" outbound, which means you can call out but nobody can call

    you
    > >in certain areas when you do this. Plus, if she buys a new phone, why

    bother
    > >with putting the older phone back on the account at that point?

    >
    > >Or are you saying, she buy a newer phone and put it on the old AMPS only
    > >account?
    > >Which won't work as the account needs to actually have the digital

    service
    > >feature turned on.
    > >Holdover from years ago when digital was actually a feature you paid

    extra
    > >for.
    > >CS never sees this but happens in background and is plan specific now.

    >
    > >Or am I missing your point? ;-)

    >
    > Maybe I'm missing your point.
    >
    > If she wants a digital phone she doesn't want her old AMPS plan. If
    > she wants her old AMPS plan she doesn't want a digital phone. What am
    > *I* missing?



    -->Doesn't look like you are missing anything. Seems logical to me. :)

    Scotty
  7. David S

    David S Guest

    On Thu, 29 Jan 2004 01:59:58 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> chose to add
    this to the great equation of life, the universe, and everything:

    >On Tue, 27 Jan 2004 06:10:35 GMT, "Scott Nelson"
    ><spamcop@bnmnetworks.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>True. The only thing about doing it that way is that Verizon is turning off
    >>AMPS "Paging" outbound, which means you can call out but nobody can call you
    >>in certain areas when you do this. Plus, if she buys a new phone, why bother
    >>with putting the older phone back on the account at that point?

    >
    >>Or are you saying, she buy a newer phone and put it on the old AMPS only
    >>account?
    >>Which won't work as the account needs to actually have the digital service
    >>feature turned on.
    >>Holdover from years ago when digital was actually a feature you paid extra
    >>for.
    >>CS never sees this but happens in background and is plan specific now.

    >
    >>Or am I missing your point? ;-)

    >
    >Maybe I'm missing your point.
    >
    >If she wants a digital phone she doesn't want her old AMPS plan. If
    >she wants her old AMPS plan she doesn't want a digital phone. What am
    >*I* missing?


    I don't know if this is Scott's point or not, but when it's put this way, I
    don't think she cares if her plan is analog or digital, she just knows it
    fits her needs but that her phone is worn out and she wants to get a modern
    one put on her existing plan.

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  8. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Wed, 28 Jan 2004 10:34:00 -0500, Isaiah Beard
    <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >A lot of people say the landline phone has the advantage over cellular
    >in that it's more reliable in an emergency. However, my experiences
    >have been that the two are about equal. During September 11, and during
    >the 2003 northeast blackout, both my cell phone and office lanldine
    >phone were unusable for voice calls... in both cases, only text
    >messaging on my cell phone worked. Maybe it's just that Verizon;s
    >landline service isn't that reliable in Central NJ, but might be better
    >in other areas. *shrug*


    Both my Verizon cell phone and my office's Lightpath (Cablevision)
    lines worked just fine on both occaisions.
  9. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Fri, 30 Jan 2004 05:22:30 GMT, David S
    <dwstreeter@spamisnaughty.att.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I don't know if this is Scott's point or not, but when it's put this way, I
    >don't think she cares if her plan is analog or digital, she just knows it
    >fits her needs but that her phone is worn out and she wants to get a modern
    >one put on her existing plan.


    Then get a phone with a good analog section (like a 7868) and do an
    ESN swap on line.
  10. A McFerrin

    A McFerrin Guest

    I use prepaid, Virgin Wireless. Haven't had any problems. You have to use
    $20 of minutes every 90 days or you lose them and if you register with a
    credit card, they will recharge you for $20 when you run out automatically.
    Very nice, easy and painless.

    Virgin uses Sprint PCS which in my opinion has better clarity and signal
    than Verizon, even with low signal levels.

    "Mike Roman" <eschamp@fastmail.fm> wrote in message
    news:20040126135834.563$if@news.newsreader.com...
    > XFF wrote:
    >
    > > Mike Roman <eschamp@fastmail.fm> wrote in message

    news:<bnl810plgg4gg68oft5qldii8rqjubhrsj@4ax.com>...
    > >
    > >
    > >>Right now my wife has Verizon analog service that gives her no free
    > >>minutes for $16/month. Day minutes are aboyt 35 cents and evening,
    > >>about 16. She uses the phone for outgoing calls only, for specific
    > >>"informational" calls and for emergencies (such as calling AAA!) and
    > >>the typical monthly bill is $22-24.
    > >>
    > >>Verizon told us that analog service is about to go away so we're
    > >>looking for something inexpensive to signup for, but all the plans are
    > >>$40 and up!
    > >>
    > >>Can anyone suggest a reasonable replacement? As senior citizens, we
    > >>have not caught the cellphone bug and don't see a good reason to
    > >>double our monthly phone bill for features we probably would never
    > >>use.

    > >
    > >
    > > If you use only 28 min/month (($23 - $16)/month / (($0.35 +
    > > $0.16)/2/min)) just switch to prepaid. It'll be even cheaper than
    > > what you're paying now.

    >
    > Thanks. I'll look into "prepaid".
  11. A McFerrin <bubbasnest@removetosend.wideopenwest.com> wrote:
    > I use prepaid, Virgin Wireless. Haven't had any problems. You have to use
    > $20 of minutes every 90 days or you lose them and if you register with a
    > credit card, they will recharge you for $20 when you run out automatically.
    > Very nice, easy and painless.
    >
    > Virgin uses Sprint PCS which in my opinion has better clarity and signal
    > than Verizon, even with low signal levels.


    Depends on where you use it. In many places, Verizon has better coverage.
    In other places, Sprint has better coverage.

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  12. Sensor Man

    Sensor Man Guest

    On Sat, 7 Feb 2004 15:48:47 -0500, A McFerrin wrote:

    > Virgin uses Sprint PCS which in my opinion has better clarity and signal
    > than Verizon, even with low signal levels.


    I disagree (both are CDMA). My company headquarters people have company
    issued Sprint phones and they sound about the same (disregarding their more
    frequent call drops) as my VZ callers.

    However, Sprint has poorer signal coverage when off the beaten path. For a
    phone to be used in emergencies this is not a good feature.

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