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USB, Futuredial, Bitpim

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by SS, Dec 10, 2003.

  1. SS

    SS Guest

    I know this has been posted before but I've searched and tried the
    suggestions given and I'm still not getting it right. I just got a new
    VX4400. I got the USB cable at Radio Shack (170-0789 for the
    5350&VX4400) I went to futuredial.com, dl'ed drivers, ran the install,
    since the 4400 wasn't listed, I chose the 5350 in the drop-down menu
    of the install. Install finished and then I dl'ed Bitpim. When I try
    to "get my phone data", I keep getting the following Log message.

    <<15:52:13.296 COM1: Opening port COM1, 115200 baud, timeout 3.000000,
    hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
    15:52:13.312 COM1: Open of comm port suceeded
    15:52:13.312 LG-VX4400: Attempting to contact phone
    15:52:13.312 COM1: Writing Data - 5 bytes
    00000000 59 0c c4 c1 7e Y...~

    15:52:16.312 COM1: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0
    bytes read
    15:52:16.312 COM1: Incomplete read was Data - 0 bytes

    15:52:16.312 COM1: Changed port speed to 38400
    15:52:16.812 COM1: Writing Data - 5 bytes
    00000000 59 0c c4 c1 7e Y...~

    15:52:19.812 COM1: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0
    bytes read
    15:52:19.812 COM1: Incomplete read was Data - 0 bytes

    15:52:19.812 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    AT$QCDMG..

    15:52:22.812 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    15:52:22.812 COM1: Changed port speed to 115200
    15:52:23.312 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    AT$QCDMG..

    15:52:26.312 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    15:52:26.312 COM1: Changed port speed to 19200
    15:52:26.812 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    AT$QCDMG..

    15:52:29.812 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    15:52:29.812 COM1: Changed port speed to 38400
    15:52:30.312 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    AT$QCDMG..

    15:52:33.312 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    15:52:33.312 COM1: Port speed 230400 not supported
    15:52:33.312 COM1: Changed port speed to 38400
    15:52:33.812 COM1: Writing Data - 5 bytes
    00000000 59 0c c4 c1 7e Y...~

    15:52:36.812 COM1: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0
    bytes read
    15:52:36.812 COM1: Incomplete read was Data - 0 bytes>>


    Where am I screwing up? Thanks for any help!
    Sue
    BlondQ@aol.com
     



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  2. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On 10 Dec 2003 12:54:48 -0800, BlondQ@aol.com (SS) wrote:

    >I know this has been posted before but I've searched and tried the
    >suggestions given and I'm still not getting it right. I just got a new
    >VX4400. I got the USB cable at Radio Shack (170-0789 for the
    >5350&VX4400) I went to futuredial.com, dl'ed drivers, ran the install,
    >since the 4400 wasn't listed, I chose the 5350 in the drop-down menu
    >of the install. Install finished and then I dl'ed Bitpim. When I try
    >to "get my phone data", I keep getting the following Log message.


    I have a feeling the problem is the cable...I'd return it and get the
    one for the VX1/VX10, etc., and download those drivers from the FD
    page.

    Mike
     
  3. Roger Binns

    Roger Binns Guest

    > Install finished and then I dl'ed Bitpim. When I try
    > to "get my phone data", I keep getting the following Log message.
    >
    > <<15:52:13.296 COM1: Opening port COM1, 115200 baud, timeout 3.000000,
    > hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
    > 15:52:13.312 COM1: Open of comm port suceeded



    Please choose auto instead of COM1. It is extremely likely that COM1
    is your onboard serial port, and not the USB to serial cable.

    You need to verify that the cable is installed correctly.
    It should show up in the Ports section of Device Manager.
    It also needs to be available to BitPim (ie not grabbed by Palm Hotsync
    or similar programs).

    Roger
     
  4. L'l John

    L'l John Guest

    Take the cable back and get Radio Shack Part #170-0783.
    That is the one that has the "bulb" in the middle of the cable. For LG
    Models 1010, 5350, VX1, VX10.
    Mine works just fine.

    John


    "SS" <BlondQ@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:48117947.0312101254.4c0697f@posting.google.com...
    | I know this has been posted before but I've searched and tried the
    | suggestions given and I'm still not getting it right. I just got a new
    | VX4400. I got the USB cable at Radio Shack (170-0789 for the
    | 5350&VX4400) I went to futuredial.com, dl'ed drivers, ran the install,
    | since the 4400 wasn't listed, I chose the 5350 in the drop-down menu
    | of the install. Install finished and then I dl'ed Bitpim. When I try
    | to "get my phone data", I keep getting the following Log message.
    |
    | <<15:52:13.296 COM1: Opening port COM1, 115200 baud, timeout 3.000000,
    | hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
    | 15:52:13.312 COM1: Open of comm port suceeded
    | 15:52:13.312 LG-VX4400: Attempting to contact phone
    | 15:52:13.312 COM1: Writing Data - 5 bytes
    | 00000000 59 0c c4 c1 7e Y...~
    |
    | 15:52:16.312 COM1: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0
    | bytes read
    | 15:52:16.312 COM1: Incomplete read was Data - 0 bytes
    |
    | 15:52:16.312 COM1: Changed port speed to 38400
    | 15:52:16.812 COM1: Writing Data - 5 bytes
    | 00000000 59 0c c4 c1 7e Y...~
    |
    | 15:52:19.812 COM1: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0
    | bytes read
    | 15:52:19.812 COM1: Incomplete read was Data - 0 bytes
    |
    | 15:52:19.812 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    | 00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    | AT$QCDMG..
    |
    | 15:52:22.812 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    | 15:52:22.812 COM1: Changed port speed to 115200
    | 15:52:23.312 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    | 00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    | AT$QCDMG..
    |
    | 15:52:26.312 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    | 15:52:26.312 COM1: Changed port speed to 19200
    | 15:52:26.812 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    | 00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    | AT$QCDMG..
    |
    | 15:52:29.812 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    | 15:52:29.812 COM1: Changed port speed to 38400
    | 15:52:30.312 COM1: Writing Data - 10 bytes
    | 00000000 41 54 24 51 43 44 4d 47 0d 0a
    | AT$QCDMG..
    |
    | 15:52:33.312 LG-VX4400: No response to setting DM mode
    | 15:52:33.312 COM1: Port speed 230400 not supported
    | 15:52:33.312 COM1: Changed port speed to 38400
    | 15:52:33.812 COM1: Writing Data - 5 bytes
    | 00000000 59 0c c4 c1 7e Y...~
    |
    | 15:52:36.812 COM1: Timed out waiting for 7e, requested bytes 1 - 0
    | bytes read
    | 15:52:36.812 COM1: Incomplete read was Data - 0 bytes>>
    |
    |
    | Where am I screwing up? Thanks for any help!
    | Sue
    | BlondQ@aol.com
     
  5. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:06:52 -0800, "Roger Binns"
    <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote:

    >> Install finished and then I dl'ed Bitpim. When I try
    >> to "get my phone data", I keep getting the following Log message.
    >>
    >> <<15:52:13.296 COM1: Opening port COM1, 115200 baud, timeout 3.000000,
    >> hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
    >> 15:52:13.312 COM1: Open of comm port suceeded

    >
    >
    >Please choose auto instead of COM1. It is extremely likely that COM1
    >is your onboard serial port, and not the USB to serial cable.


    Hey, Roger...you know a lot about this stuff...

    I have successfully gotten the FD cable working with my 4400, after a
    few fits and starts and botched attempts to get the USB-to-serial
    stuff working. (Suggestion - somewhere in your FAQ file on this,
    please make it clear where in the process you actually plug in the
    phone...I think that's what screwed me up...I did it too early...)

    My only remaining problem is that I can't get the Dial-Up Networking
    connectoids (or whatever they call it in Windows XP) to "stay" on
    either 1X/3G data or QNC data. I have the appropriate pre-dial
    strings in the appropriate places, but for some reason, the phone
    dials out in QNC/PPP mode (even in the 1X connectoid) if one of the
    strings is the =2 one, and dials out in 1X mode if one of the strings
    is the =3 one, even if I'm using the QNC connectoid. I can't seem to
    separate the two. Both point at the USB-to-serial converter on COM5 -
    with the appropriate "LG Serial Cable" and "LG Serial Cable QNC"
    drivers in place, and both connectoids are pointing to the appropriate
    modem "setting".

    I'm at a loss.

    Mike
    (posted and mailed)
     
  6. Roger Binns

    Roger Binns Guest

    > I have successfully gotten the FD cable working with my 4400, after a
    > few fits and starts and botched attempts to get the USB-to-serial
    > stuff working. (Suggestion - somewhere in your FAQ file on this,
    > please make it clear where in the process you actually plug in the
    > phone...I think that's what screwed me up...I did it too early...)


    When you plug the phone in is irrelevant. The computer only
    sees the USB to serial chip (Prolific PL2303). It cannot detect
    anything behind that.

    > if one of the
    > strings is the =2 one, and dials out in 1X mode if one of the strings
    > is the =3 one, even if I'm using the QNC connectoid.


    The phone likes to remember what it last used and use that again
    which is why the instruction say to reboot. The inf file hardcodes
    the =2/=3 stuff

    Roger
     
  7. SS

    SS Guest

    Another question...(First, I want to say I appreciate all the help.
    I'm sure I will be posting again for advice and want to give TIA for
    any help given.)
    What if my computer doesn't show to have a modem? (I use a cable
    connection for interent access) I didn't see one listed anywhere in my
    Device Manager. Is a modem needed to DL ringtones and wallpapapers?


    Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:<rl2gtvo1ruh5brtpdmih078ml3b9qo9olm@4ax.com>...
    > On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 16:06:52 -0800, "Roger Binns"
    > <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote:>
    > >> Install finished and then I dl'ed Bitpim. When I try
    > >> to "get my phone data", I keep getting the following Log message.> >>
    > >> <<15:52:13.296 COM1: Opening port COM1, 115200 baud, timeout 3.000000,
    > >> hardwareflow 0, softwareflow 0
    > >> 15:52:13.312 COM1: Open of comm port suceeded>> >

    > >Please choose auto instead of COM1. It is extremely likely that COM1
    > >is your onboard serial port, and not the USB to serial cable.>

    > Hey, Roger...you know a lot about this stuff...>
    > I have successfully gotten the FD cable working with my 4400, after a
    > few fits and starts and botched attempts to get the USB-to-serial
    > stuff working. (Suggestion - somewhere in your FAQ file on this,
    > please make it clear where in the process you actually plug in the
    > phone...I think that's what screwed me up...I did it too early...)>
    > My only remaining problem is that I can't get the Dial-Up Networking
    > connectoids (or whatever they call it in Windows XP) to "stay" on
    > either 1X/3G data or QNC data. I have the appropriate pre-dial
    > strings in the appropriate places, but for some reason, the phone
    > dials out in QNC/PPP mode (even in the 1X connectoid) if one of the
    > strings is the =2 one, and dials out in 1X mode if one of the strings
    > is the =3 one, even if I'm using the QNC connectoid. I can't seem to
    > separate the two. Both point at the USB-to-serial converter on COM5 -
    > with the appropriate "LG Serial Cable" and "LG Serial Cable QNC"
    > drivers in place, and both connectoids are pointing to the appropriate
    > modem "setting".>
    > I'm at a loss.>
    > Mike
    > (posted and mailed)
     
  8. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 01:34:11 -0800, "Roger Binns"
    <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote:

    >The phone likes to remember what it last used and use that again
    >which is why the instruction say to reboot. The inf file hardcodes
    >the =2/=3 stuff.


    OK...well, for whatever reason, I can't get it to "take" that
    hardcoding. If I change it in the Modem settings file for each one,
    it will not hold =3 on 1x and =2 on QNC.

    And the last time I tried this, rebooting the phone, it still didn't
    "kick" into the right mode. e.g. after using on QNC, rebooting it,
    trying to get it to dial 1X wouldn't work, it'd dial the QNC network.
    Only going BACK into the modem settings/extra section and putting in
    the =3 string would get it to go to 1X.

    I'm sure I'm missing something here. All I'm looking to do is have
    the 1X connectoid dial 1X all the time, and the QNC connectoid dial
    QNC all the time, with a minimal of fuss and without rebooting if at
    all possible.

    BTW, I AM using the FD cable on 1X right now on a train in Northern
    California, and it works great. Next stop is visiting your BitPim
    land and fixing the wallpaper and ringtones.

    Oh, please ignore the E-Mail...I didn't see this message until this
    afternoon.

    Mike
     
  9. Roger Binns

    Roger Binns Guest

    > Is a modem needed to DL ringtones and wallpapapers?

    Not even remotely. The discussion is around using the cell
    phone as a modem (for example if you are travelling).

    To do ringtones and wallpapers you will either need to
    fork out outrageous amounts of cash for get it now apps,
    or purchase a cable and use BitPim.

    Roger
     
  10. Roger Binns

    Roger Binns Guest

    > I'm sure I'm missing something here. All I'm looking to do is have
    > the 1X connectoid dial 1X all the time, and the QNC connectoid dial
    > QNC all the time, with a minimal of fuss and without rebooting if at
    > all possible.


    I was trying to get that to happen with the inf file. I suspect that
    putting in the reset command (AT&F) before =2/3 may do the trick,
    but just need some time (after 9pm) to try it.

    Roger
     
  11. I bought the same USB cable from Radio Shack, had the same missing 4400 driver
    when I installed the Future Dial drivers, also guessed that the 5350 would be
    the same and it worked. No problem whatsoever.

    Going back to the serial cable for the VX10 might be a good failsafe but just
    know that the USB cable for the 5350/4400 does work.

    - Mark



    x-no-archive=yes
    "L'l John" <je_norrisremove@thishotmail.com> wrote:

    >Take the cable back and get Radio Shack Part #170-0783.
    >That is the one that has the "bulb" in the middle of the cable. For LG
    >Models 1010, 5350, VX1, VX10.
    >Mine works just fine.
    >
    >John
    >
    >
    >"SS" <BlondQ@aol.com> wrote in message
    >news:48117947.0312101254.4c0697f@posting.google.com...
    >| I know this has been posted before but I've searched and tried the
    >| suggestions given and I'm still not getting it right. I just got a new
    >| VX4400. I got the USB cable at Radio Shack (170-0789 for the
    >| 5350&VX4400) I went to futuredial.com, dl'ed drivers, ran the install,
    >| since the 4400 wasn't listed, I chose the 5350 in the drop-down menu
    >| of the install. Install finished and then I dl'ed Bitpim. When I try
    >| to "get my phone data", I keep getting the following Log message.


    -----------------------------------------------------
    Mark W. McClure
    mrkmcclure@excite.com
     
  12. Roger Binns

    Roger Binns Guest

    > but just
    > know that the USB cable for the 5350/4400 does work.


    It will work fine for using the phone as a modem. However
    there is a USB interface issue with the phone itself. The
    drivers from FutureDial do not work around the issue. The
    drivers from LG do, but the only way to get them is to
    buy the Mobile Office Kit.

    Roger
     
  13. What am I missing then? I can use it as a modem. I can use BitPIM with no
    problem. What would the Mobile Office kit get me that I don't have now?

    - Mark



    x-no-archive=yes
    "Roger Binns" <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote:

    >> but just
    >> know that the USB cable for the 5350/4400 does work.

    >
    >It will work fine for using the phone as a modem. However
    >there is a USB interface issue with the phone itself. The
    >drivers from FutureDial do not work around the issue. The
    >drivers from LG do, but the only way to get them is to
    >buy the Mobile Office Kit.
    >
    >Roger
    >


    -----------------------------------------------------
    Mark W. McClure
    mrkmcclure@excite.com
     
  14. Peter Pan

    Peter Pan Guest

    It works flawlessly, allows you to use venturi if you like, works fine with
    both qwk2net and Express/NationalAccess.... however it does cost a bit
    more...

    Haven't tried it yet, but since I already have mobile office, I'm gonna give
    bitpim a try with the stuff I already have.


    "Mark W. McClure" <mrkmcclure@excite.com> wrote in message
    news:9obrtvsnpgpo0hoda9k8g6u9qbcmfioimq@4ax.com...
    >
    > What am I missing then? I can use it as a modem. I can use BitPIM with

    no
    > problem. What would the Mobile Office kit get me that I don't have now?
    >
    > - Mark
    >
    >
    >
    > x-no-archive=yes
    > "Roger Binns" <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote:
    >
    > >> but just
    > >> know that the USB cable for the 5350/4400 does work.

    > >
    > >It will work fine for using the phone as a modem. However
    > >there is a USB interface issue with the phone itself. The
    > >drivers from FutureDial do not work around the issue. The
    > >drivers from LG do, but the only way to get them is to
    > >buy the Mobile Office Kit.
    > >
    > >Roger
    > >

    >
    > -----------------------------------------------------
    > Mark W. McClure
    > mrkmcclure@excite.com
     
  15. Roger Binns

    Roger Binns Guest

    Mark W. McClure wrote:
    > What am I missing then? I can use it as a modem. I can use BitPIM with no
    > problem. What would the Mobile Office kit get me that I don't have now?


    You will have not have problems with the modem side. You will have
    problems with the diagnostics side. As I said:

    >> It will work fine for using the phone as a modem. However
    >> there is a USB interface issue with the phone itself. The
    >> drivers from FutureDial do not work around the issue. The
    >> drivers from LG do, but the only way to get them is to
    >> buy the Mobile Office Kit.


    The issues you will experience are timeouts and phone not responding.

    Roger
     
  16. That hasn't been my experience so far but I'm only a week into my ownership.
    Thanks for the information.

    - Mark


    x-no-archive=yes
    "Roger Binns" <rogerb@rogerbinns.com> wrote:

    >Mark W. McClure wrote:
    >> What am I missing then? I can use it as a modem. I can use BitPIM with no
    >> problem. What would the Mobile Office kit get me that I don't have now?

    >
    >You will have not have problems with the modem side. You will have
    >problems with the diagnostics side. As I said:
    >
    >>> It will work fine for using the phone as a modem. However
    >>> there is a USB interface issue with the phone itself. The
    >>> drivers from FutureDial do not work around the issue. The
    >>> drivers from LG do, but the only way to get them is to
    >>> buy the Mobile Office Kit.

    >
    >The issues you will experience are timeouts and phone not responding.
    >
    >Roger
    >


    -----------------------------------------------------
    Mark W. McClure
    mrkmcclure@excite.com
     

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