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Verizon Coverage in Germany

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by tigercat, Dec 13, 2006.

  1. tigercat

    tigercat Guest

    Can anyone help with which verizon phones and plans will work in Germany?

    Someone told me that Verizon said if he wanted coverage in Germany he would
    have to either cancel his plan and start a new business plan or have two
    plans.

    Can my existing personal plan work in Germany with the right phone?
     



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  2. Diamond Dave

    Diamond Dave Guest

    On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:06:43 -0500, "tigercat"
    <markd3nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:

    >Can my existing personal plan work in Germany with the right phone?


    I highly doubt your Verizon phone will work there.

    Verizon uses CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) technology (same for
    Sprint, Alltel & US Cellular). Europe almost exclusively uses GSM
    (Global System for Mobile Communications).

    US carriers such as Cingular and T-Mobile also use GSM. (However,
    Europe uses a different set of frequencies than North America)

    Verizon did (still does?) sell a hybrid phone that is CDMA in the
    US/Canada and GSM in Europe.

    You might want to call Verizon customer service or stop by a CORPORATE
    (not reseller) store and ask them.

    YMMV.

    Dave
     
  3. tigercat

    tigercat Guest

    thank you for the information.


    "Diamond Dave" <dmine45.NOSPAM@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:cia1o2p9h1ifme7kqeumc8a4e3u8c4klim@4ax.com...
    > On Wed, 13 Dec 2006 20:06:43 -0500, "tigercat"
    > <markd3nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >
    >>Can my existing personal plan work in Germany with the right phone?

    >
    > I highly doubt your Verizon phone will work there.
    >
    > Verizon uses CDMA (Code Division Multiple Access) technology (same for
    > Sprint, Alltel & US Cellular). Europe almost exclusively uses GSM
    > (Global System for Mobile Communications).
    >
    > US carriers such as Cingular and T-Mobile also use GSM. (However,
    > Europe uses a different set of frequencies than North America)
    >
    > Verizon did (still does?) sell a hybrid phone that is CDMA in the
    > US/Canada and GSM in Europe.
    >
    > You might want to call Verizon customer service or stop by a CORPORATE
    > (not reseller) store and ask them.
    >
    > YMMV.
    >
    > Dave
    >
    >
     
  4. jdoe

    jdoe Guest

    Was just in Germany this past summer. VZW does in fact sell a hybrid
    gsm/cdma phone but it is VERY VERY expensive, huge and bulky too. Also if
    you go into the stores they just give you a blank stare like deer in
    headlights and start babbling stupid bullshit. I used to have 5 vzw lines
    and I am down to 4 as I cancelled one and got a Cingular one. FWIW VZW will
    charge you a left nut for anything you do in Europe (or calling there from
    here for that matter).
    I think you will find as I did if you get a quad band phone from Cingular
    and the European roaming plan as long as you don't go crazy it's quite
    workable. ALso their LD rates to call EUrope are in many cases the same or
    LOWER than using voip like Vonage.
    Just make sure you get a quad band (world phone) Motorolas are the best bet
    here but there are others. I used a Razr and I had also gotten my kid a
    little Motorola V380 IIRC to use with a German T-Mobile card. Neither phone
    had a glitch and also you will find the difference in service like night and
    day. When you are on a cell call there you can not even tell it's not a land
    line. Crisp clear and clean. Light years better than VZW service.
    "tigercat" <markd3nospam@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:atSdnQlK99w0Ph3YnZ2dnUVZ_ue3nZ2d@comcast.com...
    > Can anyone help with which verizon phones and plans will work in Germany?
    >
    > Someone told me that Verizon said if he wanted coverage in Germany he
    > would have to either cancel his plan and start a new business plan or have
    > two plans.
    >
    > Can my existing personal plan work in Germany with the right phone?
    >
     
  5. In article <mtadnX2di71JMR3YnZ2dnUVZ_uS3nZ2d@comcast.com>, tigercat wrote:
    > thank you for the information.


    On the contrary, there are a few phones that run on American CDMA
    frequencies as well as European GSM frequencies. Those phones WILL
    work. The Samsung 890 was the first such phone, and both Verizon and
    Sprint sold it. I don't know what Verizon sells these days, but if you
    talk to a store rep and tell them you need a phone that works in
    Europe, they should be able to point you in the right direction.



    --
    Steve Sobol, Professional Geek ** Java/VB/VC/PHP/Perl ** Linux/*BSD/Windows
    Victorville, California PGP:0xE3AE35ED

    It's all fun and games until someone starts a bonfire in the living room.
     
  6. Steven J. Sobol wrote:
    > In article <mtadnX2di71JMR3YnZ2dnUVZ_uS3nZ2d@comcast.com>, tigercat wrote:
    > > thank you for the information.

    >
    > On the contrary, there are a few phones that run on American CDMA
    > frequencies as well as European GSM frequencies. Those phones WILL
    > work. The Samsung 890 was the first such phone, and both Verizon and
    > Sprint sold it. I don't know what Verizon sells these days, but if you
    > talk to a store rep and tell them you need a phone that works in
    > Europe, they should be able to point you in the right direction.


    Verizon Wireless sells three CDMA/GSM phones. Verizon calls them
    "Global Phones".

    The phones are the Motorola A840, the Samsung a795, and a PDA, the
    Samsung i830.

    Here's a link to the Verizon Wireless web page describing the service
    (called Global Phone Service) and the CDMA/GSM phones. (The
    descriptions of the phones are located near the bottom of the web
    page.)

    http://aboutus.vzw.com/internationalsvcs/globalphone/index.html

    - Peter
     
  7. tigercat

    tigercat Guest

    thank you all very much for your help; i really appreciate the insights.


    "Peter Lawrence" <hummbaby@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:1166092323.148212.138850@80g2000cwy.googlegroups.com...
    > Steven J. Sobol wrote:
    >> In article <mtadnX2di71JMR3YnZ2dnUVZ_uS3nZ2d@comcast.com>, tigercat
    >> wrote:
    >> > thank you for the information.

    >>
    >> On the contrary, there are a few phones that run on American CDMA
    >> frequencies as well as European GSM frequencies. Those phones WILL
    >> work. The Samsung 890 was the first such phone, and both Verizon and
    >> Sprint sold it. I don't know what Verizon sells these days, but if you
    >> talk to a store rep and tell them you need a phone that works in
    >> Europe, they should be able to point you in the right direction.

    >
    > Verizon Wireless sells three CDMA/GSM phones. Verizon calls them
    > "Global Phones".
    >
    > The phones are the Motorola A840, the Samsung a795, and a PDA, the
    > Samsung i830.
    >
    > Here's a link to the Verizon Wireless web page describing the service
    > (called Global Phone Service) and the CDMA/GSM phones. (The
    > descriptions of the phones are located near the bottom of the web
    > page.)
    >
    > http://aboutus.vzw.com/internationalsvcs/globalphone/index.html
    >
    > - Peter
    >
     
  8. tigercat wrote:
    > Can anyone help with instuctions on how to feed my nigger?
    >


    FEEDING YOUR NIGGER

    Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and
    watermelon. You should therefore give it none of
    these things because its lazy ass almost
    certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it
    on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your
    nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it
    finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
    Experienced nigger owners sometimes push
    watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger
    cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only
    if all niggers have worked well and nothing has
    been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch
    Plantation reports that this last one is a
    killer, since all niggers steal something almost
    every single day of their lives. He reports he
    doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon
    for his niggers as a result. You should never
    allow your nigger meal breaks while at work,
    since if it stops work for more than ten minutes
    it will need to be retrained. You would be
    surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to
    pick cotton. You really would.
    Coffee beans?
    Don't ask.
    You have no idea.
     
  9. On 2006-12-14, tigercat <markd3nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
    > Can anyone help with which verizon phones and plans will work in Germany?
    >
    > Someone told me that Verizon said if he wanted coverage in Germany he would
    > have to either cancel his plan and start a new business plan or have two
    > plans.
    >
    > Can my existing personal plan work in Germany with the right phone?


    Verizon GSM roaming is described here:

    http://aboutus.vzw.com/internationalsvcs/globalphone/index.html

    I assume this can be done with personal accounts since this page
    can be reached via a click on "International Services" from the
    Verizon Wireless personal service web page. Note that the roaming
    rates they list aren't terrible for International roaming (which
    is always stupidly expensive), they're about the same as Cingular's
    without the $6/month Cingular wants to give you cheaper rates.
    T-Mobile's rates in Europe are better than anyone's (without an
    add-on charge, at that), but if you don't travel often the
    difference probably won't matter much.

    What you probably don't want to do, however, is buy a Verizon
    phone for this. Normal Verizon CDMA phones won't work in Europe,
    and the GSM/CDMA phones Verizon sells are expensive and not very
    attractive. Instead ask Verizon for a GSM SIM card alone, if this
    is still an option (you may need to phone customer service
    for this as the stores don't seem to always know anything about it),
    and buy a cheap unlocked 900/1800 MHz GSM phone to put it in.

    Note that if you are going to be using your phone more than
    a little bit (two hours talking is $160 at Verizon's roaming
    rates, for example) it is often quite a bit cheaper, in Europe at least,
    to instead buy a prepaid GSM SIM account from a phone company in the
    country you are visiting. If you need to keep your Verizon cell
    phone number working I've had good luck using Skype, forwarding
    the cell phone to a US SkypeIn number and then forwarding the
    Skype account to the foreign phone. If you don't want the complexity
    of this, however, roaming on a Verizon GSM SIM is easy.

    Dennis Ferguson
     
  10. Conner J

    Conner J Guest

    Throw in coconuts, chitlins and cans of spam. That just about sums it up.


    "Grandwizard Cletis KKK Perkins" <richardnesssmells@yahoo.com> wrote in
    message news:1166119659.335017.214090@n67g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
    >
    > tigercat wrote:
    >> Can anyone help with instuctions on how to feed my nigger?
    >>

    >
    > FEEDING YOUR NIGGER
    >
    > Your Nigger likes fried chicken, corn bread, and
    > watermelon. You should therefore give it none of
    > these things because its lazy ass almost
    > certainly doesn't deserve it. Instead, feed it
    > on porridge with salt, and creek water. Your
    > nigger will supplement its diet with whatever it
    > finds in the fields, other niggers, etc.
    > Experienced nigger owners sometimes push
    > watermelon slices through the bars of the nigger
    > cage at the end of the day as a treat, but only
    > if all niggers have worked well and nothing has
    > been stolen that day. Mike of the Old Ranch
    > Plantation reports that this last one is a
    > killer, since all niggers steal something almost
    > every single day of their lives. He reports he
    > doesn't have to spend much on free watermelon
    > for his niggers as a result. You should never
    > allow your nigger meal breaks while at work,
    > since if it stops work for more than ten minutes
    > it will need to be retrained. You would be
    > surprised how long it takes to teach a nigger to
    > pick cotton. You really would.
    > Coffee beans?
    > Don't ask.
    > You have no idea.
    >
     
  11. tigercat

    tigercat Guest

    "Dennis Ferguson" <dcferguson@pacbell.net> wrote in message
    news:slrneo3dpb.8j.dcferguson@dhcp-floor2-sw-127.juniper.net...
    > On 2006-12-14, tigercat <markd3nospam@yahoo.com> wrote:
    >> Can anyone help with which verizon phones and plans will work in Germany?
    >>
    >> Someone told me that Verizon said if he wanted coverage in Germany he
    >> would
    >> have to either cancel his plan and start a new business plan or have two
    >> plans.
    >>
    >> Can my existing personal plan work in Germany with the right phone?

    >
    > Verizon GSM roaming is described here:
    >
    > http://aboutus.vzw.com/internationalsvcs/globalphone/index.html
    >
    > I assume this can be done with personal accounts since this page
    > can be reached via a click on "International Services" from the
    > Verizon Wireless personal service web page. Note that the roaming
    > rates they list aren't terrible for International roaming (which
    > is always stupidly expensive), they're about the same as Cingular's
    > without the $6/month Cingular wants to give you cheaper rates.
    > T-Mobile's rates in Europe are better than anyone's (without an
    > add-on charge, at that), but if you don't travel often the
    > difference probably won't matter much.
    >
    > What you probably don't want to do, however, is buy a Verizon
    > phone for this. Normal Verizon CDMA phones won't work in Europe,
    > and the GSM/CDMA phones Verizon sells are expensive and not very
    > attractive. Instead ask Verizon for a GSM SIM card alone, if this
    > is still an option (you may need to phone customer service
    > for this as the stores don't seem to always know anything about it),
    > and buy a cheap unlocked 900/1800 MHz GSM phone to put it in.
    >
    > Note that if you are going to be using your phone more than
    > a little bit (two hours talking is $160 at Verizon's roaming
    > rates, for example) it is often quite a bit cheaper, in Europe at least,
    > to instead buy a prepaid GSM SIM account from a phone company in the
    > country you are visiting. If you need to keep your Verizon cell
    > phone number working I've had good luck using Skype, forwarding
    > the cell phone to a US SkypeIn number and then forwarding the
    > Skype account to the foreign phone. If you don't want the complexity
    > of this, however, roaming on a Verizon GSM SIM is easy.
    >
    > Dennis Ferguson

    ===============================

    Thanks for the info!
     

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