Verizon - no deals or competition?

MADPOLE <madpole@comcast.net> wrote:
> Samsung phones are made in Korea. Thought I'd throw in my two cents worth.
> Do I get a refund?

No refund, sorry. I'm broke.

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This being a cell phone group, did I have to say Chinese Cell Phones rather
than just Chinese Phones? And I think I said Wal-mart, what's VZW got to do
with Wal-mart? Are they buying Wal-Mart? Can we get a rumour started? Hey
everyone, I have it from an unamed source on the verizon newsgroup that
Wal-mart and Verizon are either merging or purchasing one another! <----
that should get this rumour started.....


"Thomas M. Goethe" <goethe11@lycos.com> wrote in message
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> VZW sells many Chinese phones.
>
>
> --
> Thomas M. Goethe
>
> "Peter Pan" <Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:bu2vm5$cm5nr$1@ID-190045.news.uni-berlin.de...
> >
> > "Bob the Printer" <bdolson@comcast.net> wrote in message
> > news:9OidnQuhgopjMpndRVn-hg@comcast.com...
> > >
> > > "Michael" <betterthanthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> > > news:sr2dnaftRuOvZJzdRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
> > > > Sprint PCS has nights starting at 7pm.
> > > > T-mobile has three day weekends.
> > > > Cingular has roll-over minutes.
> > > >
> > > > Am I missing some thing or Verizon hasn't given it's loyal
customer's
> > > > anything?
> > >
> > > No special deals, but the best cellular service there is!
> > >
> > >
> >
> > But but but this is America, they don't seem to care about good service,
> all
> > they ask for is free or cheaper stuff!. Bet if Wal-Mart had a Chinese
> > phone they'd buy it instead
> >
> >
>
>

 

"Michael" <betterthanthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> Sprint PCS has nights starting at 7pm.
> T-mobile has three day weekends.
> Cingular has roll-over minutes.
>
> Am I missing some thing or Verizon hasn't given it's loyal customer's
> anything?
>
>
It is ever worse than that. Here in Rancho Cordova, Ca (8 miles east of down
town Sacramento) there are 2 local carriers with flat rate plans. Metro PCS
will charges $35 for all the local calls. Local is most of the populated
Sanfrancisco Bay area and the central valley. For $40 they let you call the
lower 48 and talk all they want. If they leave the area the phone does not
work but there is no way to get a surprise charge. There is no contract, no
credit check. Just buy the phone and pay month to month.
Verizon and sprint reps have told me their network is full of dead spots. My
experience is AT&T and Verizon have more holes where I live than Metro PCS
has.

How far appart do they put cell towers? I have had reps tell me 10 to 50
miles. Some how I find that very hard to beleave.

Verizon reps keep telling me that closed Mather AFB interferes with their
signal and know one can get a good connection near my home. Well Metro does
a lot better than the big boys. To be fair I must admit I have not tried
Sprint but AT&T and Verizon drop call from my home. I have to walk down the
street 3 or 4 houses to talk reliably. I have not been able to find where
the towers are and who is on each tower. That would be a big help.

Anyway I was in a cell phone store today. The manager told me he sells more
than 10 Metro phones for each Sprint phone and more Sprint than Verizon. Is
Verizon going to be here in a few years? Will a lot of flat rate locals be
able to take the profetable metorpoliton areas away from them? They may have
some towers, not enough but some, here but towers do not make money,
handsets make money and from what I see they are lossing the handsets count.

So why is Verizon charging so much and not doing any deals? Does anyone
charge more for less than Verizon? I would not think it would be a big deal
to make an unlimited calling plan for small areas, say 100 miles from home,
that would not be dangerous to give to a teenager. A plane that no matter
what happened the bill would be $40. If Verizon had such a plan would their
network carry the traffic? How many of these teens would grow up and get a
national plan when they start leaving the home area?

From what I can tell, Verizon is losing market share in Sacramento. I have
talked with several wireless venders and they all say they are selling
bunches of phones for each Verizon phone they sell. Are they so big they do
not need Sacramento/Sanfrancisco teenage market? More than half of the teen
phones are on a flat rate plan of some kind here. There seem to be more
Tmoble and Sprint phones sold than Verizon.

Even AT&T has been running a $10 second and third line family share plan
while Sprint and Verizon are thinking $20 is a good deal.

I still have a year to go on my contract. I feel stuck. I have tried to work
with customor service to get my phone to work better but it has not done any
good. Where should I go from here?

 

"Bob the Printer" <bdolson@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> "Michael" <betterthanthis@yahoo.com> wrote in message
> news:sr2dnaftRuOvZJzdRVn-iQ@comcast.com...
> > Sprint PCS has nights starting at 7pm.
> > T-mobile has three day weekends.
> > Cingular has roll-over minutes.
> >
> > Am I missing some thing or Verizon hasn't given it's loyal customer's
> > anything?
>
> No special deals, but the best cellular service there is!
>
>

I have the vx6000 but it drops calls if I am at home. I would like service
that will cover Rancho Cordova, Ca without dropping calls. The only reliable
ones I see hare the cheep local flat-rate plans.

 

"John Phillips" <0jdp@comcast.net> wrote in message
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>
> It is ever worse than that. Here in Rancho Cordova, Ca (8 miles east of
down
> town Sacramento) there are 2 local carriers with flat rate plans. Metro
PCS
> will charges $35 for all the local calls. Local is most of the populated
> Sanfrancisco Bay area and the central valley. For $40 they let you call
the
> lower 48 and talk all they want. If they leave the area the phone does not
> work but there is no way to get a surprise charge. There is no contract,
no
> credit check. Just buy the phone and pay month to month.
<snipped>
> I still have a year to go on my contract. I feel stuck. I have tried to
work
> with customor service to get my phone to work better but it has not done
any
> good. Where should I go from here?
>
>

So consider killing the verizon phone, the etf would only be the equivalent
of $15 a month for the year left on your contract and go with the local
phone that has no surprises on billing. If you decide to go on vacation, for
two weeks just get a prepaid phone to use outside of your area. (I use
tracfone's when I travel http://www.tracfone.com). You didn't say how much
your contract was, but considering the etf it would be $40+$15=$55 a month
for a phone that lets you talk all you want and no surprises.
No brainer... I say <ding ding ding> Go for it..

 

On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:39:03 GMT, "John Phillips" <0jdp@comcast.net>
wrote:

>I have the vx6000 but it drops calls if I am at home. I would like service
>that will cover Rancho Cordova, Ca without dropping calls. The only reliable
>ones I see hare the cheep local flat-rate plans.

For the record, though I wasn't in Rancho Cordova at the time, I've
had very good success with Verizon in the Sacramento area.

When I lived there before (a couple of years ago), I was using another
carrier, Pacific Bell Wireless (now Cingular). But I visited
recently, and my Verizon Wireless phone worked everywhere I went,
without a single dropped call or problem.

I find it hard to believe that the low-cost flat-rate carriers have
better area-wide coverage in Sacramento. They may have a tower closer
to you in RC, but I'm talking ALL OVER the area.

I couldn't understand half of your original message, so I'm guessing
that's what you're talking about...sorry.

Mike

 

"Mike" <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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> On Thu, 15 Jan 2004 10:39:03 GMT, "John Phillips" <0jdp@comcast.net>
> wrote:
>
> >I have the vx6000 but it drops calls if I am at home. I would like
service
> >that will cover Rancho Cordova, Ca without dropping calls. The only
reliable
> >ones I see hare the cheep local flat-rate plans.
>
> For the record, though I wasn't in Rancho Cordova at the time, I've
> had very good success with Verizon in the Sacramento area.
>
> When I lived there before (a couple of years ago), I was using another
> carrier, Pacific Bell Wireless (now Cingular). But I visited
> recently, and my Verizon Wireless phone worked everywhere I went,
> without a single dropped call or problem.
>
> I find it hard to believe that the low-cost flat-rate carriers have
> better area-wide coverage in Sacramento. They may have a tower closer
> to you in RC, but I'm talking ALL OVER the area.
>
> I couldn't understand half of your original message, so I'm guessing
> that's what you're talking about...sorry.
>
> Mike

Thanks Mike,
I am very frustrated. I do not seem to have a problem unless I am close to
home. I can drive most any place and get coverage but down town ranch, if
you can call it that seems to be a problem for me.

John

 

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 01:29:06 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
<scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>"Harry P" <harryp@aol.com> wrote in message
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>> On Sun, 11 Jan 2004 23:25:12 -0600, Gordy <kg0wx@IHATESPAMyahoo.com>
>> wrote:
>> >"Michael" <betterthanthis@yahoo.com> wrote in news:sr2dnaftRuOvZJzdRVn-
>> >iQ@comcast.com:

>> >go away troll!!

>> The guys a troll all because he wants more out of Verizon? Please,
>> they should be more comepetitive and get better phones too. Sprint's
>> phones make Verizon's look like they were made by Fisher Price!

>He's a troll because he doesn't use VZW- he's an old Sprint, current ATT
>customer.

You buy what you need and you (usually) get (almost) what you pay for.

I need solid coverage in the NYC area, the DC area and the Dallas
area. I get it with Verizon, and never roam on AC. Since I don't use
the phones for business I can spend the entire (2 day) weekend on the
phone if I want, and I can make all the calls I want from 9PM to 6AM.

If I wanted a 7PM starting time, 3 day weekends and phones with
gadgets - and didn't care whether I got coverage when and where I
wanted it - I'd go with another carrier.

BTW, can someone tell me where to get a desk phone with a camera that
plays MP3s and games? (Rhetorical question, guys.)

 

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 00:47:01 -0800, "Peter Pan"
<Marcs1102NOSPAM@Hotmail.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>But but but this is America, they don't seem to care about good service, all
>they ask for is free or cheaper stuff!.

I remember being in the used appliance business many years ago. The
sale went to the store with the biggest discount, even if the final
price was higher.

You'll never lose money betting on the stupidity of the American
public.

 

On Wed, 14 Jan 2004 09:28:09 -0600, Thomas T. Veldhouse
<veldy71@yahoo.com> posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

>I will throw in again the fact that Sprint PCS in the Minnesota far
>exceeds Verizon in quality and breadth of coverage. And Sprint IS all
>PCS. As a matter of fact, Verizon has too many holes in Minnesota and
>for the majority of the state, it requires a roaming partner (often
>Sprint PCS). Native coverage is small here and the equipment they use
>seems to be the cause of many local problems (echo, tower induced
>static, etc).

"Best carrier" is almost TOTALLY dependent on location. And, until
every carrier covers every square foot of the country, it will remain
so.

 

"Al Klein" <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message
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>
> "Best carrier" is almost TOTALLY dependent on location. And, until
> every carrier covers every square foot of the country, it will remain
> so.

Amen.

 

Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote in message

> "Best carrier" is almost TOTALLY dependent on location. And, until
> every carrier covers every square foot of the country, it will remain
> so.

No one expects any carrier to cover every square foot. People that
value ubiquitous coverager will choose a carrier that at least
provides the largest amount of coverage possible, whether it is native
or roaming. With Cingular and AT&T converting to GSM, in most areas of
the country Verizon is now the only choice for people that want the
best possible coverage, even if they have to pay roaming charges on
occasion. Someday GSM may come close, but it's a long way off.