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Verizon (or other CDMA carrier) LG Phone on Alltel?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Mike, Nov 3, 2003.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    My father's a long-time Alltel customer who doesn't want to change,
    and needs a new phone. He wants either an LG 3100 or LG 4400, but
    Alltel doesn't sell them.

    What's the process involved in buying, say, one of these LG phones
    that's meant for Verizon, and putting it on his Alltel account? I
    know they're both CDMA phones and compatible in that way, but I don't
    know there's Alltel software for the phones, or if that even matters.
    I have seen some on here who had difficulty "crossing that line"
    between carriers with some phones. I know Verizon doesn't SP lock
    postpaid phones, and neither does Alltel, so that's one hurdle down.

    Any advice?

    Mike
     



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  2. _KC_

    _KC_ Guest

    "Mike" <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:ksqcqv4g7jhhjg3bub4jl0a2j9rp63ravv@4ax.com...
    > My father's a long-time Alltel customer who doesn't want to change,
    > and needs a new phone. He wants either an LG 3100 or LG 4400, but
    > Alltel doesn't sell them.
    >
    > What's the process involved in buying, say, one of these LG phones
    > that's meant for Verizon, and putting it on his Alltel account? I
    > know they're both CDMA phones and compatible in that way, but I don't
    > know there's Alltel software for the phones, or if that even matters.
    > I have seen some on here who had difficulty "crossing that line"
    > between carriers with some phones. I know Verizon doesn't SP lock
    > postpaid phones, and neither does Alltel, so that's one hurdle down.
    >
    > Any advice?
    >
    > Mike




    Problem that Alltel has here at store beside me is they have no way of
    getting their PRL into a phone if they don't have hookup for it. Which they
    don't have if its a phone they have never sold, where as I can take any
    Alltel phone and force the Verizon PRL into over the air.



    KC
     
  3. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:00:06 GMT, "_KC_" <kc@kc.com> wrote:

    >Problem that Alltel has here at store beside me is they have no way of
    >getting their PRL into a phone if they don't have hookup for it. Which they
    >don't have if its a phone they have never sold, where as I can take any
    >Alltel phone and force the Verizon PRL into over the air.


    I thought Alltel did *228/OTA like Verizon did...

    An Alltel company rep on the phone told my father that the LG 3100 was
    "compatible" with Alltel, which would lead one to believe that they
    COULD program it. But he's getting clarification on that. I told him
    to ask them if they specifically could take the LG, say, meant for
    Verizon and reflash it. Maybe the Alltel company store could?

    Any ideas on similar phones that might work on Alltel? Or any good
    phones on them? His biggest deal is that he wants a large display for
    the incoming caller ID (he's older) and a good RF section and decent
    battery life. He might be willing to go with the 4400, which gets
    good reviews on the Verizon groups, but again doesn't seem to be sold
    by anyone with Alltel.

    He won't switch...he has that $69 unlimited plan with Alltel and uses
    every moment of it, and is happy with them as a carrier in NE Ohio.

    Mike
     
  4. You might try some of the authorized agents rather than the actual
    Alltel store. Some of them can get things that Alltel doesn't sell. Alltel
    does do the 228 over the air PRL updates in Tampa.


    --
    Thomas M. Goethe

    "Mike" <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:5srcqvo06ksprm7jbv7n1j000i82ib5upa@4ax.com...
    > On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 15:00:06 GMT, "_KC_" <kc@kc.com> wrote:
    >
    > >Problem that Alltel has here at store beside me is they have no way of
    > >getting their PRL into a phone if they don't have hookup for it. Which

    they
    > >don't have if its a phone they have never sold, where as I can take any
    > >Alltel phone and force the Verizon PRL into over the air.

    >
    > I thought Alltel did *228/OTA like Verizon did...
    >
    > An Alltel company rep on the phone told my father that the LG 3100 was
    > "compatible" with Alltel, which would lead one to believe that they
    > COULD program it. But he's getting clarification on that. I told him
    > to ask them if they specifically could take the LG, say, meant for
    > Verizon and reflash it. Maybe the Alltel company store could?
    >
    > Any ideas on similar phones that might work on Alltel? Or any good
    > phones on them? His biggest deal is that he wants a large display for
    > the incoming caller ID (he's older) and a good RF section and decent
    > battery life. He might be willing to go with the 4400, which gets
    > good reviews on the Verizon groups, but again doesn't seem to be sold
    > by anyone with Alltel.
    >
    > He won't switch...he has that $69 unlimited plan with Alltel and uses
    > every moment of it, and is happy with them as a carrier in NE Ohio.
    >
    > Mike
     
  5. In alt.cellular.verizon Thomas M. Goethe <xspamgoethe11xxxxxx@lycos.com> wrote:
    > You might try some of the authorized agents rather than the actual
    > Alltel store. Some of them can get things that Alltel doesn't sell. Alltel
    > does do the 228 over the air PRL updates in Tampa.


    United Wireless resells all of Cleveland's cellular networks except Northcoast
    PCS. They have lots of locations, and their sales reps are generally friendly,
    helpful and knowledgeable. Never bought phones from them, but I have bought
    accessories from them in the past. http://www.unitedwireless.com/ for
    locations.

    They will be more likely to be able to help you than anyone else will...

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    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
     
  6. John

    John Guest

    The way to make the phone a true Alltel phone is for them to burn their
    software into the eeprom. That requires the lock code, which you have. I
    will tell you an experience I had with trying to get a "compatible" CDMA
    phone to work on Verizon. The local store "flashed" the phone and it seemed
    to work fine in that local area. However the original provider's logo still
    came up and I couldn't get an OTA PRL. The Verizon tech implied some phone's
    have codes that prevent a complete flash but I'm very skeptical (this is a
    Qualcom 2035 trying to be a Verizon 2035a). Moral of the story: Go to a
    place that has the required flashing software and a competent tech.

    "Mike" <inundated9@yahoo.com> wrote in message
    news:ksqcqv4g7jhhjg3bub4jl0a2j9rp63ravv@4ax.com...
    > My father's a long-time Alltel customer who doesn't want to change,
    > and needs a new phone. He wants either an LG 3100 or LG 4400, but
    > Alltel doesn't sell them.
    >
    > What's the process involved in buying, say, one of these LG phones
    > that's meant for Verizon, and putting it on his Alltel account? I
    > know they're both CDMA phones and compatible in that way, but I don't
    > know there's Alltel software for the phones, or if that even matters.
    > I have seen some on here who had difficulty "crossing that line"
    > between carriers with some phones. I know Verizon doesn't SP lock
    > postpaid phones, and neither does Alltel, so that's one hurdle down.
    >
    > Any advice?
    >
    > Mike
     
  7. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 10:32:17 -0600, Steven J Sobol
    <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

    >United Wireless resells all of Cleveland's cellular networks except Northcoast
    >PCS. They have lots of locations, and their sales reps are generally friendly,
    >helpful and knowledgeable. Never bought phones from them, but I have bought
    >accessories from them in the past. http://www.unitedwireless.com/ for
    >locations.
    >
    >They will be more likely to be able to help you than anyone else will...


    Well, they tried. ;) Dad is actually quite familiar with United
    Wireless... he does business with them all the time, and is happy with
    them.

    But...United Wireless is dropping (or has dropped) Alltel. And in
    fact, ALL carriers except Verizon and Cingular. If you go to that Web
    site, VZW and Cingular are the only two carriers listed. That's a
    marked change from their fairly recent trumpeting that they had all
    the major carriers!

    Dad went to the Alltel store, got a loaner phone, and got it set up.

    He is still interested in the LG phones, and one of the sales folks at
    that Alltel store in Akron told him they were expecting an LG camera
    phone (6000?) sometime in the next 2-4 weeks.

    Mike
     
  8. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> posted
    in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >He is still interested in the LG phones, and one of the sales folks at
    >that Alltel store in Akron told him they were expecting an LG camera
    >phone (6000?) sometime in the next 2-4 weeks.


    No analog on the 6000 IIRC.
     
  9. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 02:55:17 GMT, Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:

    >On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> posted
    >in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>He is still interested in the LG phones, and one of the sales folks at
    >>that Alltel store in Akron told him they were expecting an LG camera
    >>phone (6000?) sometime in the next 2-4 weeks.

    >
    >No analog on the 6000 IIRC.


    I don't know for sure if it's the 6000...the guy wasn't sure which LG
    it was, but only knew it was a camera phone.

    And the no analog means nothing to my father. His entire life is
    basically along a strip between three Akron suburbs, and he's always
    been within Alltel's digital coverage. Period. He never leaves town
    or goes on trips. He'll probably never need analog in his life.

    Me? I need it, I travel too much. :D

    Mike
     
  10. In alt.cellular Al Klein <rukbat@pern.org> wrote:
    > On Mon, 03 Nov 2003 17:55:04 -0500, Mike <inundated9@yahoo.com> posted
    > in alt.cellular.verizon:
    >
    >>He is still interested in the LG phones, and one of the sales folks at
    >>that Alltel store in Akron told him they were expecting an LG camera
    >>phone (6000?) sometime in the next 2-4 weeks.

    >
    > No analog on the 6000 IIRC.


    Not really needed in Cleveland/Northeast Ohio as Alltel has solid digital
    coverage from back when they were GTE Wireless. GTE's digital migration started
    in 1995. (I remember being with GTE and getting my first digital phone :)

    Since Mike's dad is on the unlimited flat-rate $69 plan, it can probably be
    assumed that he won't travel too much with the phone (the flat-rate is for
    home-area to home-area calls only).


    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
     
  11. Mike

    Mike Guest

    On Tue, 04 Nov 2003 10:52:58 -0600, Steven J Sobol
    <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote:

    >Not really needed in Cleveland/Northeast Ohio as Alltel has solid digital
    >coverage from back when they were GTE Wireless. GTE's digital migration started
    >in 1995. (I remember being with GTE and getting my first digital phone :)


    Indeed, Dad started with GTE Wireless. For a long time, he had an
    analog in-car phone.

    >Since Mike's dad is on the unlimited flat-rate $69 plan, it can probably be
    >assumed that he won't travel too much with the phone (the flat-rate is for
    >home-area to home-area calls only).


    Correct, as I noted earlier. He doesn't travel outside the area at
    all. If he for some reason decides to do so, he's willing to eat the
    roaming charges, and it'd probably be within an area covered by Alltel
    or its partners' digital signal.

    Mike
     

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