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Verizon Push and Wait to Talk

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Larry W4CSC, Sep 3, 2003.

  1. Larry W4CSC

    Larry W4CSC Guest

    On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 05:16:51 -0000, JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason
    Lowe) wrote:

    >Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50 states
    >and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    >states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen. No
    >worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way pager
    >gets more service than Nextel)
    >

    A two way pager works great, as long as you don't have to use it to
    talk back to the paging system. Paging systems are one way with 500
    watt transmitters from the tallest towers they can get. Unlike
    cellular or trunked radio systems, all paging transmitters on a
    channel are all sending out the same data as powerful as they can.
    Having high stability master oscillators on an FM system with so many
    simultaneous, synchronized transmitters online at once, paging easily
    overcomes the multipath, conflicting signals that tears up any
    modulation scheme cellular phone system. My old POCSAG pager would
    beep and display its data when you could hardly hear the signal, at
    all, on a scanner hooked to a much bigger antenna system than the tiny
    loop antenna in the UHF pager on 462 Mhz.

    Many cellular users forward their important no-answer-transfer calls
    to a paging system terminal because paging's answering machines still
    continue to notify much more reliably than digital cellular.


    Larry

    Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
     



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  2. Bob

    Bob Guest

    While D/C is not for everyone- This statement is just not true.

    I can D/C with as little as two button presses and be talking in about three
    seconds.
    This person has never used nextel D/C - obviously.

    Lets see - 7 buttons + send - wait for PSTN to take call - wait for ring -
    phone rings a couple times (probably 15-20 seconds)
    and you say calling via PSTN is easier that D/C?

    Now You may not like D/C and that is your right to that opinion- but D/C is
    faster that PSTN.

    PSTN=public switched telephone network. (usually - UGHHH verizon)





    > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 03:54:45 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >In my opinion, it is just easier to call the person via
    > >the normal duplex method and be done with it.
    > >You would already have the call finished by the
    > >time you made contact with the person on PTT.
    > >
    > >
     
  3. N9WOS

    N9WOS Guest

    "Bob" <dont@emailme.org> wrote in message
    news:WWl5b.147892$yg.40589225@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > While D/C is not for everyone- This statement is just not true.
    >
    > I can D/C with as little as two button presses and be talking in about

    three
    > seconds.
    > This person has never used nextel D/C - obviously.
    >
    > Lets see - 7 buttons + send - wait for PSTN to take call - wait for ring -
    > phone rings a couple times (probably 15-20 seconds)
    > and you say calling via PSTN is easier that D/C?
    >
    > Now You may not like D/C and that is your right to that opinion- but D/C

    is
    > faster that PSTN.
    >
    > PSTN=public switched telephone network. (usually - UGHHH verizon)


    (shakes head)
    I am talking about verizon's PTT, not the Nextel D/C system.
     
  4. RDAEX

    RDAEX Guest

    Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    his reply, Im amazed

    --
    This post brought to you by the letters F and U


    JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    <vlaua38las76a3@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50 states
    > and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen. No
    > worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way pager
    > gets more service than Nextel)
    >
    > nospam@home.com (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    > <3f555773.181303816@news.knology.net>:
    > > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:57:02 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > > wrote:
    > > >
    > > >You usually have to tell them two times before it sinks in. :)
    > > >

    > > I had to tell the lady in the other mall store 4 times before she
    > > would wait for the beeps to talk back to me, on my demo......
    > >
    > > Are you saying the average user can be trained in HALF the time it
    > > takes to train a VZW employee?.....(c;
    > >
    > >
    > > Larry
    > >
    > > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  5. Bob

    Bob Guest

    oh - sorry - - (I bow my head in shame)


    "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net> wrote in message
    news:3Kn5b.126740$3o3.8932976@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
    >
    > "Bob" <dont@emailme.org> wrote in message
    > news:WWl5b.147892$yg.40589225@news4.srv.hcvlny.cv.net...
    > > While D/C is not for everyone- This statement is just not true.
    > >
    > > I can D/C with as little as two button presses and be talking in about

    > three
    > > seconds.
    > > This person has never used nextel D/C - obviously.
    > >
    > > Lets see - 7 buttons + send - wait for PSTN to take call - wait for

    ring -
    > > phone rings a couple times (probably 15-20 seconds)
    > > and you say calling via PSTN is easier that D/C?
    > >
    > > Now You may not like D/C and that is your right to that opinion- but D/C

    > is
    > > faster that PSTN.
    > >
    > > PSTN=public switched telephone network. (usually - UGHHH verizon)

    >
    > (shakes head)
    > I am talking about verizon's PTT, not the Nextel D/C system.
    >
    >
     
  6. Larry W4CSC

    Larry W4CSC Guest

    On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 20:06:49 GMT, "Bob" <dont@emailme.org> wrote:

    >oh - sorry - - (I bow my head in shame)
    >

    The public flogging will commence at 0900, tomorrow....(c;


    Larry

    Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
     
  7. Jacob Suter

    Jacob Suter Guest

    You are correct! But I believe the Talkabout (at least my friend's old one
    he got from AT&T) has 462mhz also. It had "recieve only" signal where my
    Panasonic Duramax only wished it had any sorto f signal signal. (it would
    roam on any TDMA system, I never cought it 'holding' me out)

    I'd love to see a conventional pager system addon for cellphones for vm
    notification and text messages. Truely solid national cellular coverage
    isn't realistic in the near future, but this would be be using existing
    technologies.

    I'd pay a few extra bucks a month for voicemail notifcation and incoming
    text messages *anywhere* in the region. It'd be worth it to know when
    somebody *NEEDED* me - so I could either haul ass to the next area with
    cellular service or find a landline.

    And yeah, incoming-only pagers work damn near anywhere - I'm sure with the
    extra space for an antenna in the cellphone, it'd work even better.

    JS

    "Larry W4CSC" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
    news:3f55d59c.213605866@news.knology.net...
    > On Wed, 03 Sep 2003 05:16:51 -0000, JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason
    > Lowe) wrote:
    >
    > >Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50 states
    > >and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > >states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen. No
    > >worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way pager
    > >gets more service than Nextel)
    > >

    > A two way pager works great, as long as you don't have to use it to
    > talk back to the paging system. Paging systems are one way with 500
    > watt transmitters from the tallest towers they can get. Unlike
    > cellular or trunked radio systems, all paging transmitters on a
    > channel are all sending out the same data as powerful as they can.
    > Having high stability master oscillators on an FM system with so many
    > simultaneous, synchronized transmitters online at once, paging easily
    > overcomes the multipath, conflicting signals that tears up any
    > modulation scheme cellular phone system. My old POCSAG pager would
    > beep and display its data when you could hardly hear the signal, at
    > all, on a scanner hooked to a much bigger antenna system than the tiny
    > loop antenna in the UHF pager on 462 Mhz.
    >
    > Many cellular users forward their important no-answer-transfer calls
    > to a paging system terminal because paging's answering machines still
    > continue to notify much more reliably than digital cellular.
    >
    >
    > Larry
    >
    > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
     
  8. Jacob Suter

    Jacob Suter Guest

    <Flame_Suit>

    Actually tonight I did a bit of a test...

    I lost a grand total of ~30 packets (1 packet per second ping of the first
    hop) over a 57 mile trip through some areas where I normally *CAN NOT* hold
    a call. Using only Verizon's Express Network service and a Motorola v120e
    that was simply tossed up on the dashboard (laying horizontal face down).

    1 hour 15 minutes, no problems... Sat and talked on IRC while someone else
    drove. Did notice an increase in latency when in the bad fringe areas,
    usually around 700-900ms latency.

    With PTT, the message could easily be cached then sent as soon as singal
    there was available... As for the v60p, its hard to say if it does this or
    not. Its also the first phone and the first live implimentation. Look how
    far CDMA itself has come in a rather short time - if the PTT market takes
    off you'll definetly see rapid improvement of the hardware and service since
    there will be more R&D time spent.

    The question is... How many customer does Nextel have that are only with
    Nextel for the PTT but would rather *NOT* be with Nextel for whatever reason
    (coverage, customer service, shitty attitude, general userbase 'churn',
    whatever). Also, how many people want PTT service, but can't get nextel for
    whatever reason (limited coverage - every major CDMA provider will likely
    offer PTT by the 2nd quarter of 2004. If these networks have
    inter-operating PTT coverage, Nextel is *SCREWED* in the way of actual
    coverage - and since their network is proprietary it'll be a serious pain to
    interconnect Nextel to the much larger network...

    Either this will cause Nextel to rapidly push for their own CDMA rollout, or
    Nextel will go out of business and the spectrum licenses purchased by one of
    the larger CDMA providers for some sort of proprietary service...

    As far as I've seen GPRS/GSM data is pretty lame. My friend had AT&T's data
    service and a Bluetooth nokia phone. Couldn't break 9k/sec, and the latency
    was usually around 800ms to the 1st hop. To compare, my 1x vzn 1st hop
    turnaround is ~295-315ms with even a pretty lousy signal, and I can *always*
    pull at least 14k/sec - topping around 15.5k (sustained download speeds).
    My upload speed is consistantly within 10% of the download speed.

    Well, thats how I see it MIGHT turn out... Time will tell the important
    story...

    </Flame_Suit>

    JS







    "Larry W4CSC" <nospam@home.com> wrote in message
    news:3f5555f6.180922899@news.knology.net...
    > On Tue, 2 Sep 2003 03:05:49 +0000 (UTC), Mitchell Regenbogen
    > <mreg@panix.com> wrote:
    >
    > >They're not really similar at all. Nextel's PTT is limited to Nextel's
    > >small digital network, and when you have no coverage you can't

    communicate
    > >at all. While Verizon's PTT may not yet, after 2 1/2 weeks, be ready for
    > >prime time, you'll still be able to make a wireless call in more areas
    > >than with any other wireless provider. Verizon understands that PTT is
    > >merely an enhancement to being able to communicate. To Nextel PTT is the
    > >only reason for being.
    > >

    > What I'd like to see is for someone to take a PTT Verizon phone from
    > Charleston, SC, and drive it around the SOLID PTT coverage area on
    > their bogus coverage map across southwestern South Carolina, where
    > they MIGHT have marginal CDMA service on the widely-spaced AMPS
    > towers, but it would be a MIRACLE if it has 1X service to make PTT
    > happen.....too funny.
    >
    > Then, when a TRUE PTT coverage map has been established, sue their
    > asses to force THEM to publish a TRUE PTT coverage map, you know, like
    > the one Verizon's sales staff is showing, the TRUE coverage map Nextel
    > produces for the same area.
    >
    >
    > Larry
    >
    > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
     
  9. Jason Lowe

    Jason Lowe Guest

    ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    NOT!!!!!!

    BLAH@BLAH.COM (RDAEX ) wrote in article
    <vlc9n3ct662c8d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    > ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    > his reply, Im amazed
    >
    > --
    > This post brought to you by the letters F and U
    >
    >
    > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > <vlaua38las76a3@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50 states
    > > and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > > states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen. No
    > > worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way pager
    > > gets more service than Nextel)
    > >
    > > nospam@home.com (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    > > <3f555773.181303816@news.knology.net>:
    > > > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:57:02 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > > > wrote:
    > > > >
    > > > >You usually have to tell them two times before it sinks in. :)
    > > > >
    > > > I had to tell the lady in the other mall store 4 times before she
    > > > would wait for the beeps to talk back to me, on my demo......
    > > >
    > > > Are you saying the average user can be trained in HALF the time it
    > > > takes to train a VZW employee?.....(c;
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > Larry
    > > >
    > > > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > > > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  10. N9WOS

    N9WOS Guest

    "Jason Lowe" <JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote in message
    news:vlfndioevj5a3c@corp.supernews.com...
    > ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    > NOT!!!!!!
    >
    > BLAH@BLAH.COM (RDAEX ) wrote in article
    > <vlc9n3ct662c8d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    > > ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    > > his reply, Im amazed


    There seems to be something I'm missing here,
    but I haven't figured out what it exactly is yet...............

    If anything besides 800 is not a radio freq........ what is it?????

    Or are we getting into the Negaherts zone????????
    Where the transmitters take negative energy and stuff.......
     
  11. Jacob Suter

    Jacob Suter Guest

    Dude, get your crackpipe off the shift key.

    JS

    "Jason Lowe" <JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote in message
    news:vlfndioevj5a3c@corp.supernews.com...
    > ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    > NOT!!!!!!
    >
    > BLAH@BLAH.COM (RDAEX ) wrote in article
    > <vlc9n3ct662c8d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    > > ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    > > his reply, Im amazed
    > >
    > > --
    > > This post brought to you by the letters F and U
    > >
    > >
    > > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > > <vlaua38las76a3@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50

    states
    > > > and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > > > states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen.

    No
    > > > worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way

    pager
    > > > gets more service than Nextel)
    > > >
    > > > nospam@home.com (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    > > > <3f555773.181303816@news.knology.net>:
    > > > > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:57:02 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >You usually have to tell them two times before it sinks in. :)
    > > > > >
    > > > > I had to tell the lady in the other mall store 4 times before she
    > > > > would wait for the beeps to talk back to me, on my demo......
    > > > >
    > > > > Are you saying the average user can be trained in HALF the time it
    > > > > takes to train a VZW employee?.....(c;
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Larry
    > > > >
    > > > > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > > > > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
    > > >
    > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular

    groups]
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  12. Mark F

    Mark F Guest

    Its obvious that you have no idea of what your talking about, and take
    your caps off please....geesh!

    Everything from VLF (Very Low Frequencies) to the microwave spectrum
    (Gigahertz) is in the radio spectrum. This includes the FM Broadcast
    Band (88-108MHz), TV Spectrum, VHF(150 MHz), UHF(450 MHz.) and even the
    cellular and PCS phones that operate in the 800 and 1.9 GHz
    respectively.

    Why don't you do research a bit more, like reading a ham radio book,
    before you make such uneducated comments.--
    Mark


    JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    <vlfndioevj5a3c@corp.supernews.com>:
    > ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    > NOT!!!!!!
    >
    > BLAH@BLAH.COM (RDAEX ) wrote in article
    > <vlc9n3ct662c8d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    > > ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    > > his reply, Im amazed
    > >
    > > --
    > > This post brought to you by the letters F and U
    > >
    > >
    > > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > > <vlaua38las76a3@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50 states
    > > > and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > > > states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen. No
    > > > worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way pager
    > > > gets more service than Nextel)
    > > >
    > > > nospam@home.com (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    > > > <3f555773.181303816@news.knology.net>:
    > > > > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:57:02 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > > > > wrote:
    > > > > >
    > > > > >You usually have to tell them two times before it sinks in. :)
    > > > > >
    > > > > I had to tell the lady in the other mall store 4 times before she
    > > > > would wait for the beeps to talk back to me, on my demo......
    > > > >
    > > > > Are you saying the average user can be trained in HALF the time it
    > > > > takes to train a VZW employee?.....(c;
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > Larry
    > > > >
    > > > > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > > > > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
    > > >
    > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  13. BOB MORRIS

    BOB MORRIS Guest

    Dude,
    The waves are that way! Who cares about caps!

    "Jacob Suter" <jsuter@spamintrastar.net> wrote in article
    <bgY5b.1427$YH1.980@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>:
    > Dude, get your crackpipe off the shift key.
    >
    > JS
    >
    > "Jason Lowe" <JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote in message
    > news:vlfndioevj5a3c@corp.supernews.com...
    > > ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    > > NOT!!!!!!
    > >
    > > BLAH@BLAH.COM (RDAEX ) wrote in article
    > > <vlc9n3ct662c8d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    > > > ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    > > > his reply, Im amazed
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > This post brought to you by the letters F and U
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > > > <vlaua38las76a3@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > > Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50

    > states
    > > > > and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > > > > states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen.

    > No
    > > > > worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way

    > pager
    > > > > gets more service than Nextel)
    > > > >
    > > > > nospam@home.com (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    > > > > <3f555773.181303816@news.knology.net>:
    > > > > > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:57:02 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >You usually have to tell them two times before it sinks in. :)
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > I had to tell the lady in the other mall store 4 times before she
    > > > > > would wait for the beeps to talk back to me, on my demo......
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Are you saying the average user can be trained in HALF the time it
    > > > > > takes to train a VZW employee?.....(c;
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Larry
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > > > > > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
    > > > >
    > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular

    > groups]
    > > >
    > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  14. BOB MORRIS

    BOB MORRIS Guest

    Ya, there are 2 types of Radio freqs! Why dont you look into what
    Nextel uses and they will tell you, it is ONLY a radio freq! Go ahead,
    call them!

    askme@askme.com (Mark F) wrote in article
    <vlgnga9kgponaa@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Its obvious that you have no idea of what your talking about, and take
    > your caps off please....geesh!
    >
    > Everything from VLF (Very Low Frequencies) to the microwave spectrum
    > (Gigahertz) is in the radio spectrum. This includes the FM Broadcast
    > Band (88-108MHz), TV Spectrum, VHF(150 MHz), UHF(450 MHz.) and even the
    > cellular and PCS phones that operate in the 800 and 1.9 GHz
    > respectively.
    >
    > Why don't you do research a bit more, like reading a ham radio book,
    > before you make such uneducated comments.--
    > Mark
    >
    >
    > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > <vlfndioevj5a3c@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    > > NOT!!!!!!
    > >
    > > BLAH@BLAH.COM (RDAEX ) wrote in article
    > > <vlc9n3ct662c8d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    > > > ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    > > > his reply, Im amazed
    > > >
    > > > --
    > > > This post brought to you by the letters F and U
    > > >
    > > >
    > > > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > > > <vlaua38las76a3@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > > Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50 states
    > > > > and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > > > > states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen. No
    > > > > worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way pager
    > > > > gets more service than Nextel)
    > > > >
    > > > > nospam@home.com (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    > > > > <3f555773.181303816@news.knology.net>:
    > > > > > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:57:02 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >You usually have to tell them two times before it sinks in. :)
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > I had to tell the lady in the other mall store 4 times before she
    > > > > > would wait for the beeps to talk back to me, on my demo......
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Are you saying the average user can be trained in HALF the time it
    > > > > > takes to train a VZW employee?.....(c;
    > > > > >
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Larry
    > > > > >
    > > > > > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > > > > > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
    > > > >
    > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
    > > >
    > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  15. Jacob Suter wrote:
    > Dude, get your crackpipe off the shift key.
    >
    > JS
    >
    > "Jason Lowe" <JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET> wrote in message
    > news:vlfndioevj5a3c@corp.supernews.com...
    >
    >>ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    >>NOT!!!!!!
    >>




    ROFLMAO!!!
     
  16. Mark F wrote:

    > Its obvious that you have no idea of what your talking about, and take
    > your caps off please....geesh!
    >
    > Everything from VLF (Very Low Frequencies) to the microwave spectrum
    > (Gigahertz) is in the radio spectrum. This includes the FM Broadcast
    > Band (88-108MHz), TV Spectrum, VHF(150 MHz), UHF(450 MHz.) and even the
    > cellular and PCS phones that operate in the 800 and 1.9 GHz
    > respectively.
    >
    > Why don't you do research a bit more, like reading a ham radio book,
    > before you make such uneducated comments.--
    > Mark
    >


    Because he's too busy trying to get his crack pipe unwedged from his
    Caps Lock key.... LOL
     
  17. Mark F

    Mark F Guest

    "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in article
    <7yb6b.46372$xf.11825@lakeread06>:
    > Mark F wrote:
    >
    > > Its obvious that you have no idea of what your talking about, and take
    > > your caps off please....geesh!
    > >
    > > Everything from VLF (Very Low Frequencies) to the microwave spectrum
    > > (Gigahertz) is in the radio spectrum. This includes the FM Broadcast
    > > Band (88-108MHz), TV Spectrum, VHF(150 MHz), UHF(450 MHz.) and even the
    > > cellular and PCS phones that operate in the 800 and 1.9 GHz
    > > respectively.
    > >
    > > Why don't you do research a bit more, like reading a ham radio book,
    > > before you make such uneducated comments.--
    > > Mark
    > >

    >
    > Because he's too busy trying to get his crack pipe unwedged from his
    > Caps Lock key.... LOL
    >


    Yep...u got that right!

    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  18. Mark F

    Mark F Guest

    Dude...I personally have coordinated and hold licenses at 150 MHz, 450
    MHz, and at 800 MHz and I can tell your they are all the same radio
    frequencies. There is no difference except the way they act in free
    space....

    I don't have to call NEXTEL...as they aren't the FCC and NEXTEL doesn't
    define the radio spectrum.
    --
    Mark


    D.CRAZY1@123.COM (BOB MORRIS) wrote in article
    <vli7l275nhu321@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Ya, there are 2 types of Radio freqs! Why dont you look into what
    > Nextel uses and they will tell you, it is ONLY a radio freq! Go ahead,
    > call them!
    >
    > askme@askme.com (Mark F) wrote in article
    > <vlgnga9kgponaa@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Its obvious that you have no idea of what your talking about, and take
    > > your caps off please....geesh!
    > >
    > > Everything from VLF (Very Low Frequencies) to the microwave spectrum
    > > (Gigahertz) is in the radio spectrum. This includes the FM Broadcast
    > > Band (88-108MHz), TV Spectrum, VHF(150 MHz), UHF(450 MHz.) and even the
    > > cellular and PCS phones that operate in the 800 and 1.9 GHz
    > > respectively.
    > >
    > > Why don't you do research a bit more, like reading a ham radio book,
    > > before you make such uneducated comments.--
    > > Mark
    > >
    > >
    > > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > > <vlfndioevj5a3c@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > ACUALLY THEY ARE NOT....800 IS ONLY A RADIO FREQ, THE REMAINDER ARE
    > > > NOT!!!!!!
    > > >
    > > > BLAH@BLAH.COM (RDAEX ) wrote in article
    > > > <vlc9n3ct662c8d@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > > Man, you REALLY need to research things before you speak
    > > > > ALL cellular phones work off "radio freq", and Larry was nice to you in
    > > > > his reply, Im amazed
    > > > >
    > > > > --
    > > > > This post brought to you by the letters F and U
    > > > >
    > > > >
    > > > > JASON_LOWE@EARTHLINK.NET (Jason Lowe) wrote in article
    > > > > <vlaua38las76a3@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > > > Hey, I have an idea for this Larry person....let's travel the 50 states
    > > > > > and see who makes the most phone calls...oh wait, Nextel is only in 34
    > > > > > states and runs on a "radio freq!" Well, we know what will happen. No
    > > > > > worries, you can use mine if you need too!!! (= (i think a 2 way pager
    > > > > > gets more service than Nextel)
    > > > > >
    > > > > > nospam@home.com (Larry W4CSC) wrote in article
    > > > > > <3f555773.181303816@news.knology.net>:
    > > > > > > On Tue, 02 Sep 2003 20:57:02 GMT, "N9WOS" <n9wos@worldnet.att.net>
    > > > > > > wrote:
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > >You usually have to tell them two times before it sinks in. :)
    > > > > > > >
    > > > > > > I had to tell the lady in the other mall store 4 times before she
    > > > > > > would wait for the beeps to talk back to me, on my demo......
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Are you saying the average user can be trained in HALF the time it
    > > > > > > takes to train a VZW employee?.....(c;
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Larry
    > > > > > >
    > > > > > > Extremely intelligent life must exist in the universe.
    > > > > > > You can tell because they never tried to contact us.
    > > > > >
    > > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
    > > > >
    > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
    > > >
    > > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  19. Mark F wrote:

    > "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in article
    > <7yb6b.46372$xf.11825@lakeread06>:
    >
    >>Mark F wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Its obvious that you have no idea of what your talking about, and take
    >>>your caps off please....geesh!
    >>>
    >>>Everything from VLF (Very Low Frequencies) to the microwave spectrum
    >>>(Gigahertz) is in the radio spectrum. This includes the FM Broadcast
    >>>Band (88-108MHz), TV Spectrum, VHF(150 MHz), UHF(450 MHz.) and even the
    >>>cellular and PCS phones that operate in the 800 and 1.9 GHz
    >>>respectively.
    >>>
    >>>Why don't you do research a bit more, like reading a ham radio book,
    >>>before you make such uneducated comments.--
    >>>Mark
    >>>

    >>
    >>Because he's too busy trying to get his crack pipe unwedged from his
    >>Caps Lock key.... LOL
    >>

    >
    >
    > Yep...u got that right!
    >


    For some reason that "Dude, get your crack pipe off the shift key"
    really cracked me up. Heh...
     
  20. Eddie Haskel

    Eddie Haskel Guest

    "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfox@cox.net> wrote in message
    news:BWo6b.46961$xf.21562@lakeread06...
    > Mark F wrote:
    >
    > > "WindsorFox[SS]" <windsorfoxNO@SPAMcox.net> wrote in article
    > > <7yb6b.46372$xf.11825@lakeread06>:
    > >
    > >>Mark F wrote:
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>>Its obvious that you have no idea of what your talking about, and take
    > >>>your caps off please....geesh!
    > >>>
    > >>>Everything from VLF (Very Low Frequencies) to the microwave spectrum
    > >>>(Gigahertz) is in the radio spectrum. This includes the FM Broadcast
    > >>>Band (88-108MHz), TV Spectrum, VHF(150 MHz), UHF(450 MHz.) and even the
    > >>>cellular and PCS phones that operate in the 800 and 1.9 GHz
    > >>>respectively.
    > >>>
    > >>>Why don't you do research a bit more, like reading a ham radio book,
    > >>>before you make such uneducated comments.--
    > >>>Mark
    > >>>
    > >>
    > >>Because he's too busy trying to get his crack pipe unwedged from his
    > >>Caps Lock key.... LOL
    > >>

    > >
    > >
    > > Yep...u got that right!
    > >

    >
    > For some reason that "Dude, get your crack pipe off the shift key"
    > really cracked me up. Heh...
    >


    You missed the REAL TV frequencies in the USA there
    dingaling.....55.250Mhz thru 215.750Mhz for VHF,dont forget the gap at 76Mhz
    for links (CHP) and remote control and UHF doesnt even start till you get to
    the "T" band thats shared with Land mobile in the USA (480Mhz). The UHF
    spectrum USED to go all the way to 890Mhz (thats why tv's with UHF dials
    that go to channel 83 DO hear analog cellphones) until they stopped it at
    channel 69. If your going to "advise" BE ACCURATE....Eddie
     

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