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Verizon to buy all of Qwest's Wireless Assets

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Andrew Shepherd, Jul 2, 2004.

  1. NocCorleone

    NocCorleone Guest

    what source did you get this information from?



    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     



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  2. NocCorleone

    NocCorleone Guest

    what source did you get this information from?



    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  3. NocCorleone

    NocCorleone Guest

    what source did you get this information from?



    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  4. NocCorleone

    NocCorleone Guest

    what source did you get this information from?



    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  5. NocCorleone

    NocCorleone Guest

    what source did you get this information from?



    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  6. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  7. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  8. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  9. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  10. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  11. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  12. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  13. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  14. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  15. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  16. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  17. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  18. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  19. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     
  20. Dan Albrich

    Dan Albrich Guest

    See this URL that Andrew mentions, then see the specific markets for Oregon
    and Washington.
    http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html

    i.e. Taken from the above URL:

    Oregon
    Portland, OR
    Eugene-Springfield, OR
    Salem-Albany-Corvallis, OR
    Bend, OR
    Klamath Falls, OR
    Medford-Grants Pass, OR
    Roseburg, OR
    Walla Walla, WA-Pendelton, OR
    Coos Bay-North Bend, OR*

    Washington
    Bellingham, WA
    Seattle-Tacoma, WA
    Olympia-Centralia, WA
    Longview, WA*
    Spokane, WA
    Bremerton, WA
    Wenatchee, WA
    Port Angeles, WA
    Kennewick, WA
    Aberdeen, WA
    Yakima, WA

    I've never been a Qwest wireless subscriber, so I cannot tell you if my
    wishful assertion is correct or not. In fact, I had thought that Qwest
    didn't have any coverage south of Eugene whatsoever, but note that the press
    release (quoted above) specifically names southern Oregon markets including
    Roseburg, Medford, Grants Pass, along I5 south etc. Perhaps they are in
    error. If this is correct, it would mean a major improvement in native
    Verizon coverage...

    I really like to travel to Ashland which is very likely covered if Medford &
    K Falls are, and it would be great to have data access there. Also note
    Pendleton out I84 is also mentioned, and another great area to visit.

    -Dan

    PS: Just to be clear- A Verizon customer already has basic cellular service
    in each of these areas. The difference is that many of the above are
    roaming markets, and roaming means you lose features and in some cases the
    quality of service isn't as good as a native Verizon market. I mean Verizon
    has excellent service here in Oregon where they have service, however, their
    roaming areas are not so hot and it sure is nice to do simple things like
    send a text message when traveling (which does not work anywhere in OR/WA
    while roaming). This part of the reason I carry an AT&T network phone as
    backup.

    --
    Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    http://cell.uoregon.edu


    "Dan Albrich" <junkmail@shaney.uoregon.edui> wrote in message
    news:U7-dnS6a2u7HNXrdRVn2iw@comcast.com...
    > This appears to be a very good thing for Oregon/Washinton users. If I'm

    not
    > misunderstanding things, this should close the large gap on I5 between
    > Woodland WA and Chehalis WA which has been a problematic area due to weak
    > coverage provided by roaming partners in that stretch. So this should
    > eventually mean native Verizon coverage on I5 including data coverage.
    >
    > In addition, they included markets south of Eugene at Roseburg, Medford,
    > Grants Pass and Klamath Falls. This would imply native Verizon coverage on
    > I5 south of Eugene too.
    >
    > One nice detail in Eugene is that Qwest is one of two cellular companies
    > with a tower on the PLC building at the University of Oregon campus.

    Verizon
    > already has excellent coverage on the east campus, and with that tower,
    > they'll have good coverage on the west campus too.
    >
    > -Dan
    >
    > PS: They did not list any of the markets south of Eugene as new. Any

    native
    > Verizon coverage south of Eugene today is news to me.
    >
    > --
    > Eugene, Oregon -- Pacific Northwest
    > http://cell.uoregon.edu
    >
    >
    > "Andrew Shepherd" <cinema@ku.edu> wrote in message
    > news:33e89561.0407020150.4389c9de@posting.google.com...
    > > "Chris Russell" <noone@nowhere.nospam> wrote in message

    > news:<sy0Fc.31313$eH1.14885854@newssvr28.news.prodigy.com>...
    > > > Check this out:
    > > >
    > > > http://rcrnews.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?newsId=18722
    > > >
    > > > That solves the question of what Qwest would do with their wireless

    > assets
    > > > after they put all their wireless customers on SPCS spectrum.

    > >
    > > But the lingering question now is how will Sprint PCS integrate the
    > > Qwest Wireless markets (e.g. Wyoming, Montana, North & South Dakota)
    > > isolated outside of the SPCS footprint?
    > >
    > > Spectrum, at least, is not an issue -- as SPCS controls PCS spectrum
    > > across the entire country. Thus, conjecture has been that SPCS will
    > > utilize its own spectrum to co-locate on existing Qwest sites in the
    > > affected markets before decommissioning the Qwest network.
    > > Additionally, SPCS has started to absorb some Qwest sites in urban
    > > markets like Denver -- in order to ensure that migrated Qwest
    > > customers experience the fewest possible discrepancies in comparative
    > > signal coverage. If those site leases -- in both the isolated & urban
    > > markets -- are being divested to VZW, SPCS' transition strategy would
    > > seem to be adversely affected. Presumably, a provision w/in the
    > > purchase agreement will still allow SPCS to retain or co-locate on
    > > certain of the Qwest sites -- as Qwest is not in the position to stab
    > > SPCS in the back.
    > >
    > > http://www.qwest.com/about/media/pressroom/1,1720,1558_archive,00.html
    > > http://news.vzw.com/news/2004/07/pr2004-07-01j.html
    > >
    > > Several months ago, I started a Qwest Wireless PCS spectrum mapping
    > > project. I set it aside only partially complete -- the intact
    > > licenses are displayed; the partitioned &/or disaggregated licenses
    > > remain unfinished. I will complete the map sometime before the VZW
    > > transaction closes late this year or early next. In the meantime, the
    > > work-in-progress documents some of the spectrum which VZW will be
    > > acquiring.
    > >
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.gif
    > > http://people.ku.edu/~cinema/wireless/qwest_pcs.txt
    > >
    > > Andrew
    > > --
    > > Andrew Shepherd
    > > cinema@ku.edu
    > > cinema@sprintpcs.com
    > > http://www.wirelesswavelength.com/

    >
    >
     

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