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Verizon Wireless Fraud? BEWARE!!!

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by John, Jan 3, 2004.

  1. "Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
    news:slrnbvf7h6.42k.nospam@debian.dns2go.com...
    > John wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 04:54:37 GMT]:
    > > uh oh, another IQ below 80.

    >
    > So in one post you say his IQ is above 80, and then you say it isn't.
    >
    > Do you have a short term memory?


    He probably had to call of his Nobel scientist friends to get a rational
    opinion.



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  2. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF78337.5000505@earthlink.net...

    > and laywers will jump on it... billions to be made here!!!!!


    From you perhaps, but not the rest of us! Why are some people so litiginous
    nowadays?? Everyone wants to SUE!

    God, it's no wonder some things cost so much!




    God Bless America!

    Bob the Printer


    Our web pages are located at:
    http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bdolson/
  3. "Justin" <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote in message
    news:slrnbvf7e4.42k.nospam@debian.dns2go.com...
    > Scott Stephenson wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 04:37:31 GMT]:
    > >
    > > "Bill Rubin" <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > > news:3FF7959F.720BA4C0@prodigy.net...
    > >
    > >>
    > >> You know I was sort of agreeing with you, but not I think you're
    > >> totally off base. Are you saying that if I have a 300 minute
    > >> plan and switch halfway through the month to a 400 minute plan,
    > >> that all I should expect to be allowed on my full month bill is
    > >> 200 minutes, and that the number of minutes you had been allowed
    > >> on your old plan no longer apply? That makes absolutely no
    > >> sense. The best case you can make is that they split the bill by
    > >> plan, and they list all of the calls made before the switchover
    > >> with a prorated amount of minutes from the old plan, and the
    > >> same for the new plan.
    > >>
    > >> Bill

    > >
    > > His logic does make sense. The problem is, we are missing all of the

    key
    > > data- when in the billing cycle the switch was made, and when in the

    billing
    > > cycle the minutes were used. There are some possible scenarios that

    would
    > > make the billing correct- we just don't have enough info to go on.

    >
    > Like, for instance, he got the last 5 days prorated and made all those
    > minutes of calls in those last 5 days of his cycle.


    exactly.
  4. John

    John Guest

    no billing error! they confirmed that when I told them over and over and over
    and over and over and over and over.... oh got it?

    But fraud is legally actionable isn't it!!!

    I got a piece of it!!!!!!!!

    laugh all you want!

    John

    Scott Stephenson wrote:
    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF78337.5000505@earthlink.net...
    >
    >>finally, someone with a BRAIN!
    >>
    >>It never ceases to amaze me how stupid most people are!
    >>
    >>NO AVERAGE PRORATE between 300 and 400 can be LESS THAN
    >>300!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >>
    >>Unless FRAUD is involved!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >>
    >>thank you. one person understands!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    >>
    >>and laywers will jump on it... billions to be made here!!!!!
    >>

    >
    >
    > OK Einstein- follow along real close.
    >
    > First, your attitude sucks (got that).
    >
    > Second, your use of the 'fraud' is laughable. This is quite obviously a
    > billing error to anyone who has a brain- see if you can find yours. If you
    > approached VZ the way you started here, its no wonder you didn't get
    > anywhere.
    >
    >
  5. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF767BD.6030206@earthlink.net...

    > I look forward to hearing from you that action is being taken. Any lawyer
    > or agent of the law wishing to pursue this case may contact me for

    complete
    > details.


    Hmmmmmmmm..........one of your later posts says that you already have your
    lawyers looking at this. Why do you need another one to pursue this?

    Troll? Probably.

    Moron? Absolutely.
  6. John

    John Guest

    you don't understand.................................

    there is NO WAY that 300 to 400 can average to less than 300.
    Any jury and judge and reasonable man and jury can agree to that.

    So I am RICH!!!!!!!!\

    John

    Scott Stephenson wrote:
    > "Bill Rubin" <billrubin@prodigy.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF7959F.720BA4C0@prodigy.net...
    >
    >
    >>You know I was sort of agreeing with you, but not I think you're
    >>totally off base. Are you saying that if I have a 300 minute
    >>plan and switch halfway through the month to a 400 minute plan,
    >>that all I should expect to be allowed on my full month bill is
    >>200 minutes, and that the number of minutes you had been allowed
    >>on your old plan no longer apply? That makes absolutely no
    >>sense. The best case you can make is that they split the bill by
    >>plan, and they list all of the calls made before the switchover
    >>with a prorated amount of minutes from the old plan, and the
    >>same for the new plan.
    >>
    >>Bill

    >
    >
    > His logic does make sense. The problem is, we are missing all of the key
    > data- when in the billing cycle the switch was made, and when in the billing
    > cycle the minutes were used. There are some possible scenarios that would
    > make the billing correct- we just don't have enough info to go on.
    >
    >
  7. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF79F0D.6060704@earthlink.net...
    > no billing error! they confirmed that when I told them over and over and

    over
    > and over and over and over and over.... oh got it?


    Yeah- I got it. You are an idiot.


    >
    > But fraud is legally actionable isn't it!!!


    To prove fraud, it has to be a conscious act. You haven't proved that.

    >
    > I got a piece of it!!!!!!!!


    Great- so happy for you.

    >
    > laugh all you want!


    I don't need to- my thirteen year old is doing the laughing for me. He
    wants to know who the clueless moron is.
  8. John

    John Guest

    don't exptrapolate your incompetence with my competence. I've made a lot of
    money suing the incomptent. It is like taking candy from a baby.

    John

    Scott Stephenson wrote:
    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF78038.50008@earthlink.net...
    >
    >>you obviously failed fifth grade math. an average between 300 and 400
    >>CANNOT be less than 300.
    >>
    >>What is your Verizon badge number? I'll let them know you have been
    >>a good Pavlov dog.
    >>

    >
    >
    > I think his badge number is the same as yours at Assholes 'R' Us. You must
    > work in the back, though- even they have minimum requirements for customer
    > interaction, which you fail to meet.
    >
    >
  9. John

    John Guest

    nope. the "reasonable man" argument will win. big bucks.

    John

    Bob the Printer wrote:
    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF78568.7000904@earthlink.net...
    >
    >>I cannot accept stupidity. theirs or yours!

    >
    >
    > In this case I don't think you have much of a choice. You misunderstood the
    > agreement and I doubt that you'll get very far if you try to take any legal
    > action.
    >
    > You might be able to get a shyster lawyer to take the case (isn't that
    > redundant?), but I feel that you'll lose out on this one and the lawyer will
    > gain..:)
    >
    > So in this case, the stupidity is yours.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > God Bless America!
    >
    > Bob the Printer
    >
    >
    > Our web pages are located at:
    > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bdolson/
    >
    >
    >
    >
  10. Justin

    Justin Guest

    John wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:07:38 GMT]:
    > you don't understand.................................
    >
    > there is NO WAY that 300 to 400 can average to less than 300.


    Prorating does not mean averaging.

    If your billing cycle ends on the 20th, and your prorating for the 400
    minute plan began on the 18th, assuming a 30 day month would be 26.66
    minutes. If you made all the calls on these two days, or you made more
    than 26.66 minutes of calls on these two days then you went over the
    call time allotted for those two days.

    It's THAT simple.
  11. John

    John Guest

    why yes, it does!

    John

    Bob the Printer wrote:
    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF78C16.10708@earthlink.net...
    >
    >>I've been on a first name basis with 15 to 20 Natural Science Nobel prize
    >>winners over the past 30 years. I'm not ashamed to admit I don't know
    >>something less than their work.

    >
    >
    > So what does that make YOU??? A genious or something?
    >
    > Give me a break!
    >
    >
    >
    > God Bless America!
    >
    > Bob the Printer
    >
    >
    > Our web pages are located at:
    > http://mywebpages.comcast.net/bdolson/
    >
    >
  12. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF79F99.1030102@earthlink.net...
    > you don't understand.................................
    >
    > there is NO WAY that 300 to 400 can average to less than 300.
    > Any jury and judge and reasonable man and jury can agree to that.


    Yes they could- too bad that's not the mathematical formula used to
    calculate your bill.

    Does stupidity run all the way through your family, or are you the first
    example?
  13. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF79F99.1030102@earthlink.net...
    > you don't understand.................................
    >
    > there is NO WAY that 300 to 400 can average to less than 300.
    > Any jury and judge and reasonable man and jury can agree to that.


    Yes they could- too bad that's not the mathematical formula used to
    calculate your bill.

    Does stupidity run all the way through your family, or are you the first
    example?
  14. John

    John Guest

    but when I am legally right, I win big!

    John

    Scott Stephenson wrote:
    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF79BDB.7040509@earthlink.net...
    >
    >>don't extrapolate your insignificance in life with my success.
    >>

    >
    >
    > Oh, but you don't give me enough credit, you lowly nerd- I've crapped more
    > intelligent things than you , and your sense of self-importance is humorous
    > at best. I can speak from direct knowledge when I say that you are in way
    > over your head in this group. Unlike you, the people of this group have no
    > need to lie about their successes, or boast of their acheivements.
    >
    >
  15. Jesse McGrew

    Jesse McGrew Guest

    Real Estate Agent wrote:

    > John:
    > You may wish to run those Complete Details by the NG participants. Some of
    > them are quite knowledgeable.
    >
    > Without the particulars, it is not possible to assist you. Your billing
    > cycle dates, plus the date you switched, are the keys to understanding
    > whether there is a problem.


    He obviously doesn't want assistance, he just wants to troll and bitch.

    But since he knows so many Nobel Lawyereates, I'm sure we'll be hearing
    about his massive settlement from Verizon any day now... then maybe
    he'll sue the IRS, proving once and for all that the income tax is an
    illegal conspiracy... then he can sue NASA for lying to us about the
    moon landing!

    Jesse
  16. John

    John Guest

    hmmm.

    fair is fair!

    conservation of cell phone minutes is preserved. or not! legal or illegal!

    simple!

    John


    Bob the Printer wrote:
    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF79800.3060402@earthlink.net...
    >
    >>:)
    >>
    >>I am quite secure in my knowledge of Relativistic Quantum Mechanics.
    >>Theoretical Chemistry, Xray Crystallography, and the like.
    >>

    >
    >
    > But you don't know diddly squat about cellphone service agreements!
    >
    >
    >
    >
  17. Justin

    Justin Guest

    John wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:10:59 GMT]:
    > nope. the "reasonable man" argument will win. big bucks.


    And just where are you being reasonable?
  18. Justin

    Justin Guest

    John wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:12:00 GMT]:
    > why yes, it does!
    >


    And the alleged name dropping, and the alleged education dropping is a
    sure sign of self doubt and low self esteem.
  19. Justin

    Justin Guest

    John wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:13:14 GMT]:
    > but when I am legally right, I win big!
    >


    And when you're legally retarded?
  20. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF7A0E8.8080501@earthlink.net...
    > but when I am legally right, I win big!
    >


    Too bad that won't happen here. For such a useless nerd, you don't know
    very much about something as simple as proration. Makes me think you are a
    nerd wannabe.

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