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Verizon Wireless Fraud? BEWARE!!!

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by John, Jan 3, 2004.

  1. John

    John Guest

    why no. the stupidity is obvoiusly all yours!!!! congratulations!!!!!!

    John

    Scott Stephenson wrote:
    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > news:3FF79F99.1030102@earthlink.net...
    >
    >>you don't understand.................................
    >>
    >>there is NO WAY that 300 to 400 can average to less than 300.
    >>Any jury and judge and reasonable man and jury can agree to that.

    >
    >
    > Yes they could- too bad that's not the mathematical formula used to
    > calculate your bill.
    >
    > Does stupidity run all the way through your family, or are you the first
    > example?
    >
    >
    >
    >



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  2. Dr. Know

    Dr. Know Guest

    OK freakin' Heywire, try this for math, asshole.

    Your plan bills from first of month to first of month. You change plans from 300
    to 400 minutes on the 18th.

    You are allowed 18/30ths of the 300 minutes for the "first portion" of the plan,
    or 180 minutes. Oh, but you had diarrhea of the mouth those 18 days, talking to
    all your Nobel friends (and Clinton & Bush too!) and used ALL 292 minutes those
    first 18 days!!!!

    You went 112 minutes over your "pro-rated" allotment, buttwipe!

    You then spent the next 12 days of the month in the electro-shock therapy unit
    here at Greystone under the supervision of Dr. Feelgood and myself, and we had
    to take anything with sharp edges away from you, thus you used NO MINUTES during
    that time. Of course you were TOO SEDATED to remember any of this.

    Please, call my office and let's get those meds regulated fast, John.

    Dr. Know


    John wrote:

    > there you go listening to the little voices in your head again. But you
    > know you are ineffectual don't you!
    >
    > John
  3. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF7A6D3.5090407@earthlink.net...
    > :)
    >
    > It must be nice to be a moron with less than an 80 IQ. Tell me, what is
    > it like?
    >

    Why ask me? You are writing the book on it.
  4. Andy S

    Andy S Guest

    > > > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > > > news:3FF7956A.4010006@earthlink.net...

    > > Bob the Printer wrote:


    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net>
    > wrote in message news:3FF7A3F3.4000001@earthlink.net...
    > ah, but this is just the groundwork for a class action suit!
    >
    > millions to be had!
    >
    > John
    >

    just not by you. you'll end up with a few dollars in freebies
    from vzw.
    --
    Andrew D. Sisson
  5. "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    news:3FF7A7A9.3050904@earthlink.net...
    > why no. the stupidity is obvoiusly all yours!!!! congratulations!!!!!!
    >


    Wrong again, little nerd wannabe. I obviously have forgotten more math than
    you have retained.
  6. Andy S

    Andy S Guest


    > > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    > > news:3FF79D24.5040606@earthlink.net...
    > >
    > >>:)
    > >>
    > >>interesting piece of crap.

    > >
    > >
    > > Don't give yourself that much credit.
    > >
    > >
    > >>I know when to use condescending skills and
    > >>reality. And my staff love me, but they have real skills!

    > >
    > > Scott Stephenson wrote:
    > > Well, I would hope someone would have real skills- you show a complete

    lack
    > > of any.
    > >
    > >


    > "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net>
    > wrote in message news:3FF7A3A0.4020401@earthlink.net...
    > ah, someone, show some skills, at least you recognice that that is NOT

    YOU!
    >
    > John
    >
    >

    for someone who claims to know Nobel Laureates, you
    sure don't know how to spell.

    --
    Andrew D. Sisson
  7. Justin

    Justin Guest

    John wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:40:22 GMT]:
    > yada yada yada,
    >
    > 300 averaged with 400 cannot be less than 300. What part of mathematics
    > are you challenged with?


    You either can't read, are a half wit, or both.

    Bye Troll
  8. Justin

    Justin Guest

    John wrote on [Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:42:02 GMT]:
    > why no. the stupidity is obvoiusly all yours!!!! congratulations!!!!!!
    >


    Yes, your comebacks are even childish.

    > John
    >
    > Scott Stephenson wrote:
    >> "John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    >> news:3FF79F99.1030102@earthlink.net...
    >>
    >>>you don't understand.................................
    >>>
    >>>there is NO WAY that 300 to 400 can average to less than 300.
    >>>Any jury and judge and reasonable man and jury can agree to that.

    >>
    >>
    >> Yes they could- too bad that's not the mathematical formula used to
    >> calculate your bill.
    >>
    >> Does stupidity run all the way through your family, or are you the first
    >> example?
    >>
    >>
    >>
    >>

    >
  9. John <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message news:<3FF78038.50008@earthlink.net>...
    > >>I don't care HOW YOU AVERAGE 300 and 400 minutes, you CANNOT get a number
    > >>less than 300 !!!! Unless you failed fifth grade mathematics! So this
    > >>is clearly a deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair
    > >>or unlawful gain.


    Let me be first here to say it... I think YOU are the idiot John...
    and i actually have a degree in MATH (along with physics and computer
    science).

    -Tom

    PS. Everyone pro-rates the exact same way... not just verizon! it is
    your fault for being ignorant! Judging from your fifth grade posts,
    my prediction is that you will easily get your ass handed to you on a
    platter by the verizon lawyers... if it ever makes it to trial!
  10. On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:10:59 GMT, John <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net>
    wrote:

    >nope. the "reasonable man" argument will win. big bucks


    You'll be lucky to get your $50.40 back. And if you do, you won't get
    a cent more than that. You've shown no proof of fraud. Billing
    errors don't constitute fraud, nor does consumer incompetence. Sorry,
    no "big bucks" for you.
  11. On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:39:12 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
    <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:

    >
    >"John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    >news:3FF7A667.2020802@earthlink.net...
    >> no troll.
    >>
    >> building credible lawyer case. value added.
    >>

    >
    >That, like all of your other posts, is nonsense.
    >


    For someone supposedly so highly educated, he hasn't a clue about
    proper grammar, sentence structure, capitalization, or punctuation.
  12. On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:26:13 GMT, John <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net>
    wrote:

    >ah, but this is just the groundwork for a class action suit!
    >


    Why don't you put your money where your mouth is, John.

    You've been REPEATEDLY asked in this thread for your billing date, the
    date you made the change, and the call detail information for the pre-
    and post-change periods. But instead of providing the information so
    that the many talented minds here can give you worthwhile advice, you
    spew insults. Until you can provide the information requested, no one
    here can or will attempt to help you, and you will only be viewed here
    as an arrogant, childish ass.

    >millions to be had!


    And it appears you don't understand class action lawsuits any better
    than you understand your problem with VZW. The only people who win
    big in CALs are lawyers.
  13. On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:12:32 GMT, "Scott Stephenson"
    <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote:

    >
    >"John" <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote in message
    >news:3FF79F99.1030102@earthlink.net...
    >> you don't understand.................................
    >>
    >> there is NO WAY that 300 to 400 can average to less than 300.
    >> Any jury and judge and reasonable man and jury can agree to that.

    >
    >Yes they could- too bad that's not the mathematical formula used to
    >calculate your bill.
    >
    >Does stupidity run all the way through your family, or are you the first
    >example?
    >


    I'm beginning to think his family tree has no branches. That would
    certainly explain the inability to grasp simple concepts.
  14. Okay. So John-Troll was fun for a while. What's next?
  15. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Bill Rubin said:

    ; Unless his bill only covered 13 days, then I don't see how you
    ; can be correct. Actually we don't really know that answer from
    ; the OP. What was the billing period you are talking about here?

    Actually, we do. I did the math. From what the OP did say, he changed
    his plan somewhere in the middle of his billing cycle. I've changed
    plans a few times over the last two years, so I do know how it works.
    From the airtime figures he provided, how much the new plan provides
    per month and how much he was provided +this month+, simply do the
    math.

    400 minutes/month divided by a 30 day billing cycle is 13.3 minutes per
    day. 178 prorated minutes for the remainder of the cycle divided by
    13.3 minutes is 13.35 days. Since they only deal in whole numbers,
    round down to 13 days.

    ; Was it a full month or just a portion? And did you actually use

    Portion. Otherwise there wouldn't be any need to prorate the plan.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "Oh wait a minute you thought, you think I'm evil if I bring a group of
    girls on a camping trip and don't touch them?" (Rupert Giles, "Buffy
    the Vampire Slayer")
  16. Previously on alt.cellular.verizon, Bob the Printer said:

    ; > please invoke your BRAIN before posting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    ; You clearly do not embrace the concept of prorating John!

    I think I could embrace the concept of prorating John.

    --
    Jeffrey Kaplan <*> www.gordol.org
    The from userid is killfiled <*> Send personal mail to gordol

    "The vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world.
    And we will find these people and we will bring them to justice." -
    George W. Bush (Washington DC, Oct 27 2003)
  17. John <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net> wrote:
    > don't extrapolate your insignificance in life with my success.


    While we're doling out advice, you might consider actually listening to
    what people have told you in this thread.

    Sorry you don't like the answer.

    --
    JustThe.net Internet & New Media Services
    22674 Motnocab Road * Apple Valley, CA 92307-1950
    Steve Sobol, Geek In Charge * 888.480.4NET (4638) * sjsobol@JustThe.net
  18. Evan Platt

    Evan Platt Guest

    On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 01:09:24 GMT, John <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net>
    wrote:

    >Dear State Attorney General (of all 50 States):
    >Dear Better Business Bureau (near the most populous 100 cities in the US):
    >Dear Consumer Reports: (a category for you to use to rank phone providers):
    >Dear FCC:
    >Dear Department of Commerce:
    >Dear FTC:
    >Dear Online Newsgroups:


    Dear mommy:
    Dear daddy:

    >It is my opinion that Verizon Wireless is engaging in fraud.


    It is my opinion you don't understand 'prorate'.

    >I assume that a class action suit and investigation will ensue and return
    >the money to all those who have been ripped off in this manner, and with a
    >substantial multimillon dollar amount of punitive damages to discourage
    >such practices in the future.


    Uhh yeah.

    You ever been involved in a class action lawsuit? The multimillion
    dollars go to the attorneys. The people involved (you and me) will get
    something probably along the lines of a $10 billing credit or 100 free
    minutes.

    >
    >I look forward to hearing from you that action is being taken. Any lawyer
    >or agent of the law wishing to pursue this case may contact me for complete
    >details.


    It'll be hard for them to get back to you - until they can stop
    laughing.
    To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.
  19. Evan Platt

    Evan Platt Guest

    On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 03:19:16 GMT, John <jhyNOSPAM001@earthlink.net>
    wrote:

    >oh, and I HAVE SUED people in tha past. 100% success rate!


    People.

    Have you ever sued a multi BILLION dollar company?

    What did you sue people for? laughing at your whining?
    To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.
  20. Evan Platt

    Evan Platt Guest

    On Sun, 04 Jan 2004 05:16:25 GMT, Justin <nospam@insightbb.com> wrote:

    >And when you're legally retarded?


    You get prefered parking. :)


    To reply, remove TheObvious from my e-mail address.

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