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VX4400 Battery Life

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by Mike, Jul 2, 2004.

  1. Mike

    Mike Guest

    KyleDP123@lycos.com (KP) wrote in message news:<66893a6c.0407041933.a2a3e30@posting.google.com>...
    > >>>I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,

    > as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    > hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning.
    >
    > That could be your problem. You could have ruined your battery if the
    > first thing you did was talk on it, instead of charge it. Most owners
    > manuals clearly state not to use the phone for the first time before
    > fully charged.



    WOW...that is interesting. I sure hope that is not the case. The
    salesman just casually said (when I bought the phone) that it only has
    a partial charge on the phone, so you may get "some" use out of it,
    but be sure to give it a full charge of 12 hours. I am going to try
    to talk to them today and either swap the phone or try another
    battery. If I do get a new battery, then I will definitely go
    directly to a loooong charge. Thanks for the info
     



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  2. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  3. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  4. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  5. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  6. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  7. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

    remove spamproofing to reply by email
     
  8. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

    remove spamproofing to reply by email
     
  9. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

    remove spamproofing to reply by email
     
  10. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

    remove spamproofing to reply by email
     
  11. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  12. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  13. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  14. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  15. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  16. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  17. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  18. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  19. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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  20. Yagi Bear

    Yagi Bear Guest

    On Sat, 03 Jul 2004 05:17:04 GMT, Louise <none@nospam.com> wrote:

    >In article <e0f7682c.0407021742.70fb2985@posting.google.com>, mem7759
    >@yahoo.com says...
    >> I just bought a VX4400B phone. I am still within my 15 days. I
    >> really like the phone, but the battery life seems to be very poor. I
    >> am not a power user, and I have adjusted all the LCD settings and such
    >> to decent levels (in the 50% range), stayed in digital mode, etc. I
    >> am betting about 30 hrs of standby and 30 min of talk time and I'm
    >> down to 1 bar. I think I can get a bunch more time on the last bar,
    >> as my very 1st day with the phone I only had 1 bar, and got about an
    >> hour of talk time and never got the low battery warning. This just
    >> seems to far below the claimed battery life. I realize you don't
    >> always get what is posted, but we are not even close. I know the
    >> extended battery is an option, but how much better will that truly be.
    >> Can anyone please post their average standby/talk times of their OEM
    >> battery? I have already swapped the battery, next is to try to swap
    >> the phone and charger. Thanks!
    >>

    >Mine has a strange "idiosyncracy". After talking for 35 - 40 minutes,
    >I've gone to only one bar. But it continues without problem.
    >
    >Then, about 10 minutes after I hang up, it is back to say 3 or more bars
    >although it has not been charged at all.
    >
    >This is a replacement VX4400 and I've yet to figure this out but it
    >looks like the battery readout isn't accurate once it gets hot.
    >
    >As I say, very strange - but otherwise quite a good phone.
    >
    >Louise


    The battery meter measures the output voltage of the battery. One
    feature of Lithium-Ion batteries is that the battery voltage does not
    "sag" as much as with Ni-cads or NiMhs, therefor the battery meter is
    very sensitive to battery sag. As witrh any batteries, the output
    voltage drops slightly when a load is placed on it (the RF amplifier).
    When you hang up, the load is reduced and the battery voltage and the
    meter go up again. Another phenomenon is "battery float" which is an
    abnormally high battery voltage which occurs while charging. If you
    put your phone on it's charger for 5 to 10 minutes then remove it, the
    meter will show 3 or 4 bars for a little while, then it will creep
    back down again. Both of these phenomena are quite normal, although
    they are more pronounced with Li-Ions than with other battery types.

    Yagi Bear

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