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VX4400 & serial data cable? & Express Network?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by L'l John, Oct 20, 2003.

  1. L'l John

    L'l John Guest

    I have the FutureDial data cable from Radio Shack "USB to Serial cable" part
    # 17-783.
    This cable is listed for use with the VX1 & VX10 and a couple of others. It
    is supposed to work with the VX4400 and bitpim, which requires a serial
    cable. I got that to work correctly but now I am having trouble getting on
    the internet with the phone, cable & laptop.
    I downloaded the cable drivers from the FutureDial website. When installing
    the drivers it ask which phone I have. Of course I have the VX4400, but I
    have seen somewhere that maybe I should choose the VX10 from the list. I
    have tried both and still can't get it to work with a modem use. It does not
    seem to matter which I choose for use with bitpim, either one will work.
    Does anyone know and will tell me exactly how I should setup the cable,
    phone, & laptop to work on Express Network?
    Thanks,
    John
     



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  2. Art

    Art Guest

    L'l John wrote:
    > I have the FutureDial data cable from Radio Shack "USB to Serial cable" part
    > # 17-783.
    > This cable is listed for use with the VX1 & VX10 and a couple of others. It
    > is supposed to work with the VX4400 and bitpim, which requires a serial
    > cable. I got that to work correctly but now I am having trouble getting on
    > the internet with the phone, cable & laptop.
    > I downloaded the cable drivers from the FutureDial website. When installing
    > the drivers it ask which phone I have. Of course I have the VX4400, but I
    > have seen somewhere that maybe I should choose the VX10 from the list. I
    > have tried both and still can't get it to work with a modem use. It does not
    > seem to matter which I choose for use with bitpim, either one will work.
    > Does anyone know and will tell me exactly how I should setup the cable,
    > phone, & laptop to work on Express Network?


    I got this to work on a Toshiba Laptop running WinXP Home. I've
    subsequently switched over to the 17-789 cable (straight USB).

    Make sure the phone is set to RS-232 and 115200 baud. Windows should
    detect and install the USB cable as a serial port. You can check under
    the Device Manager to see if the serial port is showing up when the
    cable is plugged in. To use the Windows networking, you need to install
    a modem configured to run over whatever COM port is assigned to your
    cable. You want to be sure to use the "Standard 19200 bps Modem", but
    configured for a max speed of 115200. If you want to use the EN, you'll
    probably need to add the string "AT$QCMDR=3" to the initialization
    string under the advanced tab of the modem properties.

    Finally you need to add a dial-up networking entry using the modem
    installed above.

    BTW/ bitpim works fine with the straight USB cable. When using the
    FutureDial drivers, two USB subdevices get installed, one for the modem,
    and a virtual, diagnostic serial port which bitpim uses.

    Hope this helps,
    Art
     
  3. L'l John

    L'l John Guest

    "Art" <art@nospam.org> wrote in message news:3F944C41.6000504@nospam.org...
    |
    | L'l John wrote:
    | > I have the FutureDial data cable from Radio Shack "USB to Serial cable"
    part
    | > # 17-783.
    | > This cable is listed for use with the VX1 & VX10 and a couple of others.
    It
    | > is supposed to work with the VX4400 and bitpim, which requires a serial
    | > cable. I got that to work correctly but now I am having trouble getting
    on
    | > the internet with the phone, cable & laptop.
    | > I downloaded the cable drivers from the FutureDial website. When
    installing
    | > the drivers it ask which phone I have. Of course I have the VX4400, but
    I
    | > have seen somewhere that maybe I should choose the VX10 from the list. I
    | > have tried both and still can't get it to work with a modem use. It does
    not
    | > seem to matter which I choose for use with bitpim, either one will work.
    | > Does anyone know and will tell me exactly how I should setup the cable,
    | > phone, & laptop to work on Express Network?
    |
    | I got this to work on a Toshiba Laptop running WinXP Home. I've
    | subsequently switched over to the 17-789 cable (straight USB).
    |
    | Make sure the phone is set to RS-232 and 115200 baud. Windows should
    | detect and install the USB cable as a serial port. You can check under
    | the Device Manager to see if the serial port is showing up when the
    | cable is plugged in. To use the Windows networking, you need to install
    | a modem configured to run over whatever COM port is assigned to your
    | cable. You want to be sure to use the "Standard 19200 bps Modem", but
    | configured for a max speed of 115200. If you want to use the EN, you'll
    | probably need to add the string "AT$QCMDR=3" to the initialization
    | string under the advanced tab of the modem properties.
    |
    | Finally you need to add a dial-up networking entry using the modem
    | installed above.
    |
    | BTW/ bitpim works fine with the straight USB cable. When using the
    | FutureDial drivers, two USB subdevices get installed, one for the modem,
    | and a virtual, diagnostic serial port which bitpim uses.
    |
    | Hope this helps,
    | Art
    |

    Hi Art,
    Thanks for your reply.
    I have done all those things you suggest and there may be something else
    causing my problem. Whenever I attempt to connect to the modem through
    dial-up connect, or even Modem diagnostics, I receive the following error
    message:

    "The modem failed to respond. Make sure it is properly connected and turned
    on. If it is an internal modem or is connected, verify that the interrupt
    for the port is properly set."

    Now I know it is connected and turned on. Bitpim recognizes the phone and
    will send and retrieve data to the phone.
    Any idea about the error message?
    Oh, don't know if it matters but I am using Windows ME.
    Thanks,
    John
     
  4. Marc Reinig

    Marc Reinig Guest

    Try setting the phone to USB instead of RS-232.

    Mine at least runs the modem diagnostics when I do that.

    Marc Reinig
    System Solutions
     
  5. Art

    Art Guest

    L'l John wrote:
    > Hi Art,
    > Thanks for your reply.
    > I have done all those things you suggest and there may be something else
    > causing my problem. Whenever I attempt to connect to the modem through
    > dial-up connect, or even Modem diagnostics, I receive the following error
    > message:
    >
    > "The modem failed to respond. Make sure it is properly connected and turned
    > on. If it is an internal modem or is connected, verify that the interrupt
    > for the port is properly set."
    >
    > Now I know it is connected and turned on. Bitpim recognizes the phone and
    > will send and retrieve data to the phone.
    > Any idea about the error message?
    > Oh, don't know if it matters but I am using Windows ME.


    I had a problem something like that until I got one of the speed
    settings correct. Is the speed setting under the modem configure panel
    of the Dial-up networking entry properties page also set to 115200?

    Can you start Hypeterminal or some other terminal program and get the
    phone to manually respond to AT commands?

    Also, you do have 1X service where you are trying this?

    Art
     
  6. L'l John

    L'l John Guest

    "Art" <art@nospam.org> wrote in message news:3F9476F0.9010604@nospam.org...
    |
    | L'l John wrote:
    | > Hi Art,
    | > Thanks for your reply.
    | > I have done all those things you suggest and there may be something else
    | > causing my problem. Whenever I attempt to connect to the modem through
    | > dial-up connect, or even Modem diagnostics, I receive the following
    error
    | > message:
    | >
    | > "The modem failed to respond. Make sure it is properly connected and
    turned
    | > on. If it is an internal modem or is connected, verify that the
    interrupt
    | > for the port is properly set."
    | >
    | > Now I know it is connected and turned on. Bitpim recognizes the phone
    and
    | > will send and retrieve data to the phone.
    | > Any idea about the error message?
    | > Oh, don't know if it matters but I am using Windows ME.
    |
    | I had a problem something like that until I got one of the speed
    | settings correct. Is the speed setting under the modem configure panel
    | of the Dial-up networking entry properties page also set to 115200?
    |
    | Can you start Hypeterminal or some other terminal program and get the
    | phone to manually respond to AT commands?
    |
    | Also, you do have 1X service where you are trying this?
    |
    | Art
    |

    OK Art,
    I have made progress.
    I restored my computer back to a few days ago and reinstalled everything. I
    can finally get my computer to recognize the phone as a modem. Must be WIN
    ME!
    I have been successful in getting connected. to Express Network.
    Now if I could keep it connected while I read a post in the newsgroup. It
    keeps timing out or going dormant and when I call on it to get some
    information on the internet it has to reconnect each time.
    Is that normal?
    Thanks again,
    John
     
  7. Art

    Art Guest

    L'l John wrote:
    > I have made progress.
    > I restored my computer back to a few days ago and reinstalled everything. I
    > can finally get my computer to recognize the phone as a modem. Must be WIN
    > ME!
    > I have been successful in getting connected. to Express Network.
    > Now if I could keep it connected while I read a post in the newsgroup. It
    > keeps timing out or going dormant and when I call on it to get some
    > information on the internet it has to reconnect each time.
    > Is that normal?


    The below was clipped from the Verizon Wireless website:

    "NationalAccess data session automatically terminates after 5 minutes of
    inactivity, NationalAccess data session automatically terminates after
    24 hours of activity. Data session is inactive when no data is being
    transferred. Data session may seem inactive while data is actively being
    transferred to device, or may seem active when it is actually cached and
    not transferring data."

    Art
     
  8. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Mon, 20 Oct 2003 17:45:56 -0400, "L'l John"
    <je_norris:nospam@removethis:hotmail.com> posted in
    alt.cellular.verizon:

    >I have done all those things you suggest and there may be something else
    >causing my problem. Whenever I attempt to connect to the modem through
    >dial-up connect, or even Modem diagnostics, I receive the following error
    >message:
    >
    >"The modem failed to respond. Make sure it is properly connected and turned
    >on. If it is an internal modem or is connected, verify that the interrupt
    >for the port is properly set."
    >
    >Now I know it is connected and turned on. Bitpim recognizes the phone and
    >will send and retrieve data to the phone.
    >Any idea about the error message?
    >Oh, don't know if it matters but I am using Windows ME.


    Run Hyperterminal. Set it up for the modem. Type "at" (without the
    quotation marks). The modem should say "ok". If it does, the
    computer and the modem are talking.
     

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