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Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by ,.·*`~ Adam ~`*·.,, Sep 28, 2003.

  1. Scott Stephenson <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in article
    <jK2fb.4377$qK1.4224168@news2.news.adelphia.net>:
    > David Domanski wrote:
    >
    > >
    > >
    > > Scott Stephenson <scott.stephensonson@adelphia.net> wrote in article
    > > <Zn2fb.4373$qK1.4221536@news2.news.adelphia.net>:
    > >
    > >> >
    > >> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
    > >> Wow- it seems that others would disagree.
    > >>
    > >>
    > >>

    > >
    > > Are there are people who'd disagree that Nextel covers anything
    > > anywhere.
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >
    >
    > I haven't seen anyone claim that (including myself). What was the point of
    > the statement?


    Only thing I have seen people in this Newsgroup have been complaining
    about Verizon Service. If you hate it so why bother to post in this
    newsgroup?

    I see day in and day out people that have Nextel, Sprint, Cingular,
    At&t, T-Mobile and hate it. Yes, ofcourse the occasional person who
    wants to complain about their Verizon service for some reason or
    another. but considering the horror stories I've heard about other
    providers I'll stand behind Verizon.

    At&t & Sprint doesn't work in most smaller cities in Michigan. Cingular
    is having huge problems with Customer Service and their network.
    Nextel....well Nextel doesn't work at my house 2 Miles from a Major
    Expressway. I have activated numerous customers from Every Major
    Carrier especially Sprint and Nextel considering how crappy both
    companies coverage is up here. Not to mention for Nextel have you
    ever thought how worthless free incoming minutes really is?


    [posted via phonescoop.com]



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  2. David Domanski wrote:

    >
    > Only thing I have seen people in this Newsgroup have been complaining
    > about Verizon Service. If you hate it so why bother to post in this
    > newsgroup?


    Because the truth hurts sometimes. What does it tell you when all you've
    seen is people complaining? And the only thing I see are excuses for
    service and equipment issues that every carrier (including the great
    Verizon) is going to have. The best companies admit their flawsand work to
    improve them- not explain them away or put a major spin on them.

    >
    > I see day in and day out people that have Nextel, Sprint, Cingular,
    > At&t, T-Mobile and hate it. Yes, ofcourse the occasional person who
    > wants to complain about their Verizon service for some reason or
    > another. but considering the horror stories I've heard about other
    > providers I'll stand behind Verizon.


    And as you stated above, you see people here talking about how much they
    hate Verizon- that would put them on the same level as the rest. I wonder
    if you've noticed something- in all of the posts that I've written on this
    group, I have never addressed any coverage issues that any carrier has
    (including Nextel). I have never tried to 'correct' a subscriber who
    complains about coverage in a particular area- as a matter of fact, I don't
    respond to them. Wonder why? Because those people aren't lying, aren't
    stupid, and do know what they're talking about. And I realize that Nextel,
    Verizon, AT&T, Cingular, Sprint PCS, t-Mobile, and all the rest have the
    very same basic flaw- nobody can claim total coverage everywhere that
    someone may want to use their phone. However, the attitude in this
    newsgroup is usually quite contrary to this, and as you have done,
    questionable coverage maps and 'personal' experiences are used to nullify
    any claim of bad coverage. Just admit it, as big as Verizon is, they have
    all of the problems (if not more) of all of the other carriers.



    > At&t & Sprint doesn't work in most smaller cities in Michigan. Cingular
    > is having huge problems with Customer Service and their network.
    > Nextel....well Nextel doesn't work at my house 2 Miles from a Major
    > Expressway. I have activated numerous customers from Every Major
    > Carrier especially Sprint and Nextel considering how crappy both
    > companies coverage is up here. Not to mention for Nextel have you
    > ever thought how worthless free incoming minutes really is?


    Worthless? Free minutes that don't get charged against my plan minutes.
    Actually quite useful- if I know I need to talk to somebody for more than a
    minute or two, I ask them to call me back (if its a landline). I can talk
    for an hour and not use a minute of plan time. This is your idea of
    worthless?


    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]
  3. John Squire

    John Squire Guest

    There is another paging company in there somwhere. I would really have
    to dig to remember what it was. I'm almost certain it was 6, because I
    was a customer at the time and I was happy until they started messing
    around with the customer service. Then they screwed it all to hell.
    malebomb@comcast.net (Male Bomb) wrote in article
    <vni3iusuq1c591@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    > > greater vision. Also the only reason Verizon is as big as it is, is
    > > because it came from the merger of 6 companies!!

    >
    > Actually it was 4, BAM, GTE , Airtouch and PrimeCo... MB
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  4. John Squire

    John Squire Guest

    Simple I've used both technologies. I used to be a Verizon customer.
    Get your facts straight. At the time verizon was formed, it was a
    merger of 6 companies. In fact the FCC wasn't sure it was going to let
    it happen.

    isocom79@hotmail.com (David Domanski) wrote in article
    <vni3o61kuodj30@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    >
    > jbsquireii@hotmail.com (John Squire) wrote in article
    > <vni1sparuspd6c@corp.supernews.com>:
    > >
    > > As to your comment about the Nextel towers, get a clue. Nextel doesn't
    > > share towers like Verizon does, so they don't have the coverage area
    > > Verizon has YET! They'll get there. As for verizon's ptt, Nextel's
    > > digital format is better. Superior technology, from a company with
    > > greater vision. Also the only reason Verizon is as big as it is, is
    > > because it came from the merger of 6 companies!!

    >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com]

    >
    > Nextel will take YEARS to catch up to the coverage map Verizon provides,
    > not to mention that Verizon is nearly twice the size of Nextel.
    >
    > Verizon was a merger of 6 companies to you but in all reality its just a
    > joint venture between Verizon Communications and VodaFone.
    >
    > How do you figure IDEN is better than CDMA?
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  5. John Squire

    John Squire Guest

    okay, I'll clarify. Nextel functions on the iden format. Verizon and
    Sprint are CDMA/PCS respectively. So when a phone capable of CDMA or
    PCS is in a Verizon area it works. Now if you have an iden phone you
    won't function on a CDMA network. Check out the phones companies are
    selling. They are usually, dual, tri, or now even quad band phones.
    Which means they function on more types of systems. Motorola has talked
    about upgrading the iden format to work on the CDMA format, but Nextel
    believes they would lose thier goverment contracts, so that's out.

    "George" <George@nospam.invalid> wrote in article
    <eOdeb.240$qj6.230187@news1.news.adelphia.net>:
    >
    > "John Squire" <jbsquireii@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:vni1sparuspd6c@corp.supernews.com...
    > >
    > > As to your comment about the Nextel towers, get a clue. Nextel doesn't
    > > share towers like Verizon does, so they don't have the coverage area
    > > Verizon has YET! They'll get there. As for verizon's ptt, Nextel's

    >
    >
    > Sure they do. There is a shared tower near my office with Sprint/Nextel/AT&T
    > located there. There are at least a dozen more just like that and with
    > additional carriers in my general area.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  6. John Squire wrote:

    > okay, I'll clarify. Nextel functions on the iden format. Verizon and
    > Sprint are CDMA/PCS respectively. So when a phone capable of CDMA or
    > PCS is in a Verizon area it works. Now if you have an iden phone you
    > won't function on a CDMA network. Check out the phones companies are
    > selling. They are usually, dual, tri, or now even quad band phones.
    > Which means they function on more types of systems. Motorola has talked
    > about upgrading the iden format to work on the CDMA format, but Nextel
    > believes they would lose thier goverment contracts, so that's out.


    Unless Nextel acquires a CDMA provider and goes dual mode- they could retain
    the iDen network for PTT and expand their phone service this way. THey
    also own the domestic rights to the Qualcomm CDMA PTT technology, which
    would allow then to offer the closest non-iDen PTT product to their current
    PTT.
  7. John Squire

    John Squire Guest

    Well some of the new falcon phones they are coming out with are dual
    mode with gsm. This is so they can function in foriegn countries for
    corporate execs that travel. Check out Nextel worldwide for available
    countries. Not sure if they will upgrade the ptt to work in foreign
    countries or not. To my knowledge if you go out of the country you just
    have a phone with the dual band. They currently only offer the i2000 as
    a dual band, and its not very cool. Nice idea you have. Not sure if
    they would pursue it or not.

    >
    > Unless Nextel acquires a CDMA provider and goes dual mode- they could retain
    > the iDen network for PTT and expand their phone service this way. THey
    > also own the domestic rights to the Qualcomm CDMA PTT technology, which
    > would allow then to offer the closest non-iDen PTT product to their current
    > PTT.
    >


    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  8. David D

    David D Guest

    jbsquireii@hotmail.com (John Squire) wrote in article
    <vo40dqmeogsn03@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Simple I've used both technologies. I used to be a Verizon customer.
    > Get your facts straight. At the time verizon was formed, it was a
    > merger of 6 companies. In fact the FCC wasn't sure it was going to let
    > it happen.
    >
    >\
    >
    >



    I am happy you have your facts straight then.

    Even though CDMA technology is setup for better voice quality, faster
    data speeds hey sure IDEN is great.



    [posted via phonescoop.com]
  9. Al Klein

    Al Klein Guest

    On Tue, 07 Oct 2003 00:04:21 -0000, jbsquireii@hotmail.com (John
    Squire) posted in alt.cellular.verizon:

    >okay, I'll clarify. Nextel functions on the iden format. Verizon and
    >Sprint are CDMA/PCS respectively.


    Not quite. Verizon and Sprint use the CDMA air interface. Sprint is
    strictly PCS (1900 MHz). Verizon has markets in the 800 MHz
    ("cellular") band and markets in the 1900 MHz (PCS) band.

    > So when a phone capable of CDMA or PCS


    PCS isn't a mode, it's a frequency. ALL current Verizon phones are
    capable of PCS, and ALL Verizon phones (with the singular exception of
    grandfathered [Hi, Larry] analog phones), as well as all Sprint
    phones, are CDMA. (Verizon won't activate a single or dual mode phone
    any more.)
  10. John Squire

    John Squire Guest

    Have you used iden? Things are getting better with each upgrade. My
    wife surfs the net on her i30, she's happy with the speeds it performs.
    Its not Cable or DSL, but for a cell phone it ain't bad either. I have
    no need to surf at this time, but maybe when I upgrade to the i730 from
    my i90 I will.

    isocom79@hotmail.com (David D) wrote in article
    <vo44sqhmt5887f@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    >
    > jbsquireii@hotmail.com (John Squire) wrote in article
    > <vo40dqmeogsn03@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > Simple I've used both technologies. I used to be a Verizon customer.
    > > Get your facts straight. At the time verizon was formed, it was a
    > > merger of 6 companies. In fact the FCC wasn't sure it was going to let
    > > it happen.
    > >
    > >\
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
    > I am happy you have your facts straight then.
    >
    > Even though CDMA technology is setup for better voice quality, faster
    > data speeds hey sure IDEN is great.
    >
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com]


    [posted via phonescoop.com]

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