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why doesn't verizon caller id display name?

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by hoops, Sep 5, 2005.

  1. hoops

    hoops Guest

    calls made using verizon cell phones displays the calling number, but not
    the name (except if you call another cell phone and that number is in the
    directory). sprint, cingular etc etc do display caller names.

    any reason why?



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  2. In article <elmop-9EDA44.21093405092005@nntp2.usenetserver.com>,
    Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
    >In article <vB5Te.283$wH6.28@fe10.lga>, "hoops" <hoops_1002@aol.com>
    >wrote:
    >
    >> calls made using verizon cell phones displays the calling number, but not
    >> the name (except if you call another cell phone and that number is in the
    >> directory). sprint, cingular etc etc do display caller names.

    >
    >Cingular does NOT display the name, unless (as you said) the name is in
    >the phone's directory under the incoming number.
    >
    >That's how ALL of them behave.
    >


    Family members and friends who have TMobile DO have their names displayed.
    I think Sprint is the same, as other family members have Sprint and I
    think I've seen their name show up, too.

    East here in the Metro Boston area.

    Scott
  3. Hot Rod

    Hot Rod Guest

    Sprint does display names for their cell customers.. on land lines for sure
    and only on your cell phone if you have their name entered in the directory.


    "hoops" <hoops_1002@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:vB5Te.283$wH6.28@fe10.lga...
    >
    > calls made using verizon cell phones displays the calling number, but not
    > the name (except if you call another cell phone and that number is in the
    > directory). sprint, cingular etc etc do display caller names.
    >
    > any reason why?
    >
    >
  4. Hot Rod

    Hot Rod Guest

    Maybe I should have a little bit clearer.. Sprint wireless sends both number
    and name caller ID....

    "Elmo P. Shagnasty" <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote in message
    news:elmop-6E3340.08104806092005@nntp2.usenetserver.com...
    > In article <6cfTe.8305$FW1.1871@newsread3.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
    > "Hot Rod" <hotrod@hotmail.com> wrote:
    >
    >> Sprint does display names for their cell customers.. on land lines for
    >> sure
    >> and only on your cell phone if you have their name entered in the
    >> directory.

    >
    > All land line companies offer caller ID with name; at least some charge
    > extra for the name delivery, though.
    >
    > So you can't compare land lines with cell service.
    >
  5. Frankster

    Frankster Guest

    After all this crap, your question still remains. Why don't they (all)
    display name?

    -Frank

    "hoops" <hoops_1002@aol.com> wrote in message
    news:vB5Te.283$wH6.28@fe10.lga...
    >
    > calls made using verizon cell phones displays the calling number, but not
    > the name (except if you call another cell phone and that number is in the
    > directory). sprint, cingular etc etc do display caller names.
    >
    > any reason why?
    >
    >
  6. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Frankster wrote:
    > After all this crap, your question still remains. Why
    > don't they (all) display name?


    VZW has said they don't do it for customer privacy reasons.
    Same reason they gave (only major cell provider to do so)
    for not participating in the cellular "411" directory.

    -Quick
  7. hoops

    hoops Guest

    exactly!

    i am almost positive sure about sprint as the name does show up in my caller
    id log on my land phone.

    i am also pretty sure about cingular.

    i received an email from verizon stating theirs does not (which we knew),
    but it doesn't mention why.


    "Frankster" <Frank@SPAM2TRASH.com> wrote in message
    news:77OdnYiktNGuJIDeRVn-tA@giganews.com...
    > After all this crap, your question still remains. Why don't they (all)
    > display name?
    >
    > -Frank
    >
    > "hoops" <hoops_1002@aol.com> wrote in message
    > news:vB5Te.283$wH6.28@fe10.lga...
    > >
    > > calls made using verizon cell phones displays the calling number, but

    not
    > > the name (except if you call another cell phone and that number is in

    the
    > > directory). sprint, cingular etc etc do display caller names.
    > >
    > > any reason why?
    > >
    > >

    >
    >
  8. Isaiah Beard

    Isaiah Beard Guest

    Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
    > In article <431d767e$0$557$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
    > scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:
    >
    >
    >>Family members and friends who have TMobile DO have their names displayed.

    >
    >
    > Because their phone numbers are programmed into the phone, with a name
    > attached.


    That's not what the OP is talking about.

    The OP is referring to when a Verizon cell phone user calls a LANLDINE
    phone. On the LANDLINE caller ID, the number will show but the name was
    display as unknown or unavailable. I too can confirm this, and also
    that Sprint and Cingular did pass on name info with the CID.

    Not sure if VZW actually does make the name available and the ILECs
    simply choose not to dip into the name database, or if they just don't
    pass the name along at all.



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  9. Remove This

    Remove This Guest

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    I work for the ILEC ...." stuff happens! "



    "Isaiah Beard" <sacredpoet@sacredpoet.com> wrote in message
    news:11hrlbu25oh4h76@corp.supernews.com...
    > Elmo P. Shagnasty wrote:
    >> In article <431d767e$0$557$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
    >> scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:
    >>
    >>
    >>>Family members and friends who have TMobile DO have their names
    >>>displayed.

    >>
    >>
    >> Because their phone numbers are programmed into the phone, with a name
    >> attached.

    >
    > That's not what the OP is talking about.
    >
    > The OP is referring to when a Verizon cell phone user calls a LANLDINE
    > phone. On the LANDLINE caller ID, the number will show but the name was
    > display as unknown or unavailable. I too can confirm this, and also that
    > Sprint and Cingular did pass on name info with the CID.
    >
    > Not sure if VZW actually does make the name available and the ILECs simply
    > choose not to dip into the name database, or if they just don't pass the
    > name along at all.



    Thanks, Isaiah, for recapping my (OP) problem. And you nailed it right on
    the head..
  10. Diamond Dave

    Diamond Dave Guest

    On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:41:19 -0400, "hoops" <hoops_1002@aol.com> wrote:

    >exactly!
    >
    >i am almost positive sure about sprint as the name does show up in my caller
    >id log on my land phone.
    >
    >i am also pretty sure about cingular.
    >
    >i received an email from verizon stating theirs does not (which we knew),
    >but it doesn't mention why.
    >


    They're too cheap to belong to the service that makes it work.

    (Caller ID name requires a "database dip", where the called party's
    company dips into a database based upon the caller ID number. Name and
    number are NOT transmitted together.

    Dave
  11. In article <elmop-31844D.07220506092005@nntp2.usenetserver.com>,
    Elmo P. Shagnasty <elmop@nastydesigns.com> wrote:
    >In article <431d767e$0$557$b45e6eb0@senator-bedfellow.mit.edu>,
    > scott@mit.edu (Scott Ehrlich) wrote:
    >
    >> Family members and friends who have TMobile DO have their names displayed.

    >
    >Because their phone numbers are programmed into the phone, with a name
    >attached.
    >
    >The phones ALL do a lookup in the phone to see if the phone knows a name
    >for the number; if not, then the number only is displayed.
    >
    >But the cell system itself isn't passing the name.
    >


    Uh, no. I'm talking about my *landline* callerID box.

    Scott
  12. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Diamond Dave wrote:
    > On Tue, 6 Sep 2005 12:41:19 -0400, "hoops"
    > <hoops_1002@aol.com> wrote:
    >
    >> exactly!
    >>
    >> i am almost positive sure about sprint as the name does
    >> show up in my caller id log on my land phone.
    >>
    >> i am also pretty sure about cingular.
    >>
    >> i received an email from verizon stating theirs does not
    >> (which we knew), but it doesn't mention why.
    >>

    >
    > They're too cheap to belong to the service that makes it
    > work.
    >
    > (Caller ID name requires a "database dip", where the
    > called party's company dips into a database based upon
    > the caller ID number. Name and number are NOT transmitted
    > together.


    VZW does not disclose the name associated with a number.
    They say it is for privacy reasons. VZW also declined to participate
    in the cellular 411 directory for the same reason where the other
    major providers did.

    -Quick
  13. Lena

    Lena Guest

    Quick wrote:

    > VZW does not disclose the name associated with a number.
    > They say it is for privacy reasons. VZW also declined to participate
    > in the cellular 411 directory for the same reason where the other
    > major providers did.


    On our Family Share Plan, VZW doesn't know the names of those who have
    the phones, only the one who signed the contracts. Sometimes on our
    home Caller ID, I see a town and state associated with the number when
    a family member calls on their V-wireless phone, but it must be the
    town where the exchange was originally assigned; it is not our town.

    With our cellphones and with most programmable cordless phones with
    built in Caller ID, the phone looks through the addressbook first to
    match the incoming number with a number and name programmed into the
    addressbook, and displays the name as it is programmed; if no match,
    then the Caller ID displays the info provided on the incoming call. We
    have all our most frequent callers programmed on our cellphones and
    home phones, and see immediately who is calling. If the call is from
    an unknown cell phone, it is usually a wrong number.

    Lena
  14. Remove This

    Remove This Guest


    > a family member calls on their V-wireless phone, but it must be the
    > town where the exchange was originally assigned; it is not our town.
    >


    Now that's Interesting. I'll have to take a ride over to Billerica and
    "phone home".



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    I work for the ILEC ...." stuff happens! "
  15. Quick

    Quick Guest

    Remove This wrote:
    >> a family member calls on their V-wireless phone, but it
    >> must be the town where the exchange was originally
    >> assigned; it is not our town.
    >>

    >
    > Now that's Interesting. I'll have to take a ride over to
    > Billerica and "phone home".


    Wrong idea. "where the exchange was originally assigned"
    not where the call was originated. 123-456-7890 "456" is
    the exchange and they are (were) assigned geographically
    as are area codes.

    -Quick

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