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XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or do theysomehow prevent its use.

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by SMS 斯蒂文• å¤￾, Nov 28, 2007.

  1. I'd be interested in getting the XV-6800, but using it on my current
    plan with no data service. I only really care about WiFi usage. There's
    enough free WiFi in the places I frequent that I can get by with no EV-DO.

    Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO and
    starts charging me for data?
     



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  2. Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    On Nov 28, 3:15 pm, SMS $B;[h\J8(B* $B2F(B <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > I'd be interested in getting the XV-6800, but using it on my current
    > plan with no data service. I only really care about WiFi usage. There's
    > enough free WiFi in the places I frequent that I can get by with no EV-DO.
    >
    > Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO and
    > starts charging me for data?




    There's a charge for data over EVDO????

    Why, then, do they advertise it at $59.99 a month unlimited??
    Subject, of course, to the same warning about if you accumulate more
    than 5GB of usage they may shut you down. And the only people using
    5GB per month are pimply-faced teenagers down/uploading videos of
    themselves jerking off.
     
  3. Jon

    Jon Guest

    Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
    > On Nov 28, 3:15 pm, SMS $B;[h\J8(B* $B2F(B <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
    >> I'd be interested in getting the XV-6800, but using it on my current
    >> plan with no data service. I only really care about WiFi usage. There's
    >> enough free WiFi in the places I frequent that I can get by with no EV-DO.
    >>
    >> Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO and
    >> starts charging me for data?

    >
    >
    >
    > There's a charge for data over EVDO????


    Read your next sentence...

    > Why, then, do they advertise it at $59.99 a month unlimited??


    The "unlimited" part of it was dropped a while ago (after a court battle)
     
  4. Jon

    Jon Guest

    Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    SMS 斯蒂文• å¤￾ wrote:
    > I'd be interested in getting the XV-6800, but using it on my current
    > plan with no data service. I only really care about WiFi usage. There's
    > enough free WiFi in the places I frequent that I can get by with no EV-DO.
    >
    > Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO and
    > starts charging me for data?


    Yes. Most verizon phones have an option in settings to turn EVDO
    completely off (which saves battery life)

    You can have it connect to 1x only and use wifi (wifi is free if you can
    find an open connection)
     
  5. Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    Todd Allcock wrote:
    > At 28 Nov 2007 12:15:25 -0800 SMS 斯蒂文• å¤￾ wrote:
    >
    >> Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO
    >> and starts charging me for data?

    >
    > I only have experience with GSM WinMo PPC phones, not CDMA, but in all the
    > PPCs I've used (with and without phones), you can select what "network"
    > (WinMo calls a group of connection settings a "network" for whatever reason)
    > the device uses to connect to the internet or private networks in the
    > connections menu.
    >
    > You could either delete the default Verizon cellular modem connections, or
    > create a new blank network without any cellular modem connections defined.
    > An empty network will use WiFi (or Bluetooth PAN) but no "modem" connections.
    > I have such a network setup on my HTC Wizard that I called "No GPRS" that
    > I switch to when roaming internationally to ensure I avoid the $15/MB T-Mo
    > charges for data roaming.
    >
    >
    > BTW, while I've got you on the line- do you happen to know if PagePlus
    > roams in Mexico? I know "officially" it doesn't, but my experience with
    > PagePlus so far seems to be that a lot of stuff slips through the cracks
    > (like free unlimited QNC data!)


    I don't know. I know it doesn't work in Canada (or it didn't last
    February anyway).
     
  6. Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    On Nov 28, 6:02 pm, Jon <J...@Cebridge.net> wrote:
    > Kickin' Ass and Takin' Names wrote:
    >
    > > On Nov 28, 3:15 pm, SMS $B;[h\J8(B* $B2F(B <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > >> I'd be interested in getting the XV-6800, but using it on my current
    > >> plan with no data service. I only really care about WiFi usage. There's
    > >> enough free WiFi in the places I frequent that I can get by with no EV-DO.

    >
    > >> Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO and
    > >> starts charging me for data?

    >
    > > There's a charge for data over EVDO????

    >
    > Read your next sentence...
    >
    > > Why, then, do they advertise it at $59.99 a month unlimited??

    >
    > The "unlimited" part of it was dropped a while ago (after a court battle)




    I just checked my plan and talked with Verizon. I then talked with an
    independent Verizon reseller who cuts through the crap one sometimes
    hears from Verizon reps.

    I use a Verizon EVDO connection via a USB720 modem and a Kyocera KR-1
    router as my main Internet connection from my home -- which is in a
    deep rural area. I am charged $59.99 a month no matter how much
    bandwidth I use. The only exception is that Verizon says they may cut
    off an account that uses over 5GB per month. The independent reseller
    to whom I talked said, well, yes, he is aware of this limit but he
    doesn't know anyone who has been cut off. My last month's usage as
    1.1GB -- and that was heavy because of a major edit to one of the four
    websites I maintain.

    So -- maybe Verizon was forced to eliminate the word "unlimited" but
    it seems to me that the $59.99 a month is, essentially, unlimited.

    Of course, if you up/download lots of music, video, and the like,
    that's another story.
     
  7. Larry

    Larry Guest

    Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or do they somehow prevent its use.

    Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
    news:filt4a$5pr$3@aioe.org:

    > My current plan is to forward my
    > cell to my Gizmo Project VoIP line, and use the VoIP client on my
    > Wizard (assuming the hotel's free WiFi doesn't block SIP VoIP,
    > otherwise I'll have to use Skype, which has lower quality on my

    200MHz
    > phone.)
    >


    There's Gizmo for the N800, Todd.....(c;


    Larry
    --
    Isn't it ironic that the same ISPs that are telling you
    you're downloads threaten their networks......
    .....are testing 100Gbps TV to sell on the SAME systems?
    http://tinyurl.com/27qx3v
     
  8. Larry

    Larry Guest

    Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or do they somehow prevent its use.

    Todd Allcock <elecconnec@AmericaOnLine.com> wrote in
    news:fimm9d$met$1@aioe.org:

    > I know- I've looked at the 800 a couple of times, but I think

    after
    > years of using WinMo devices, I'm not ready to buy into yet

    another
    > "not quite a real PC" format, particularly when the Eee PC and

    Intel's
    > similar flash- based mini-laptops running "real" Windows are

    within
    > reach.
    >
    >


    I dual-booted Red Hat Linux/Windoze for a couple of years, then
    got away from Linux as the software, at that time, never seemed
    to get "stable" because the very young people coding had short
    attention spans before moving on to something more interesting to
    them. Code was just left hangin'.

    So, when I held my first N800 burning my fingers, I was supposed
    to be disappointed by its Linux hacker roots. Some of that
    unfinished business is still present, but there are loads of
    TEAMS working on some really neat, REALLY TINY CODED stuff like
    Maemo Mapper that makes it great!

    This morning, while on free wifi at breakfast in a diner next to
    a bar with free wifi..(c;...I downloaded Peekaboo from maemo.org.
    It's just been "released", which means it runs for an hour
    without crashing in Linuxspeak. Peekaboo turns the tablet into a
    webcam server that anyone can use. It creates a webpage that,
    unfortunately for now, doesn't tunnel its way through the
    routers, so you'll need to PORT it if you want it on the net for
    others. The software couldn't be simpler to operate...pop out
    the N800's little webcam, boot Peekaboo then press its ONLY
    button to start it streaming. There's a TV box the development
    team says will, "someday", show us the video before streaming it,
    but it doesn't function, yet. Remotely, you just http://the
    tablet's IP address, port 8080 and it streams back to your on
    port 8888. Just these little gadgets keep popping up almost
    daily! A team forms around them because Nokia had the foresight
    to give them all a place to congregate, chat and develop,
    maemo.org. Sheer genius on Nokia's part. They don't have to do
    much coding to sell it at all....just let the hackers have at it
    for all to enjoy.

    Linux, and Linux tablets aren't what they were when I lost
    interest in begging root to do something. Hell, I nearly threw
    my laptop out in the trash, today. I have a BT USB dongle and
    have never tried to pair the ROKR Z6M's DUN to my WinXP laptop so
    I could use it without wifi. Bluetooth pairing the phone to the
    N800 is a 2 minute job, even for a novice. After delving many
    layers into the Windows Bullshit trying to obfuscate using BT DUN
    as much as possible, I FINALLY got it working without hiring an
    MSCE to pair it. Why does it have to be SO HARD?! The N800 does
    it in about 6 keystrokes!...DUHH! After I got it paired and
    turned on DUN, OBEX, OBEX PUSH, FTP so I could also get stuff on
    and off the phone from the laptop, I find out the STUPID
    interface software ONLY GOES 115,000 BAUD like we're using RS-
    232C from 1988! BT to the little Linux box runs 800-900K on
    EVDO...but NOT THE DAMNED WINDOWS XP FROM GATEWAY with its
    WINDOWS SERIAL PORT! It's got USB2 ports, now I have to find a
    way to INCREASE ACCESS SPEED TO THEM!....(sigh)

    I need to check on a new software from Kensington, the dongle's
    manufacturer. Haven't done that, yet. Maybe they have a hack.

    Larry
    --
    Of course, if you get adventurous, it has XTERM so you can
    destroy it like the old days...(c; If you destroy it, you simply
    plug in the USB cable to the Windoze box and run the Nokia Maemo
    update, again, to put it back....minus everything you ever
    installed, of course....(c;
     
  9. Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    Todd Allcock wrote:
    > At 28 Nov 2007 12:15:25 -0800 SMS 斯蒂文• å¤￾ wrote:
    >
    >> Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO
    >> and starts charging me for data?

    >
    > I only have experience with GSM WinMo PPC phones, not CDMA, but in all the
    > PPCs I've used (with and without phones), you can select what "network"
    > (WinMo calls a group of connection settings a "network" for whatever reason)
    > the device uses to connect to the internet or private networks in the
    > connections menu.
    >
    > You could either delete the default Verizon cellular modem connections, or
    > create a new blank network without any cellular modem connections defined.
    > An empty network will use WiFi (or Bluetooth PAN) but no "modem" connections.
    > I have such a network setup on my HTC Wizard that I called "No GPRS" that
    > I switch to when roaming internationally to ensure I avoid the $15/MB T-Mo
    > charges for data roaming.


    Well it's all moot, as I can't get the XV-6800 through the checkout. It
    gives me the option to keep my current plan, but then insists "You must
    select a PDA/Smartphone option" with the only option being "Unlimited
    Data Usage$44.99/month." If I don't select it, it comes back with
    "Please select a PDA/Smartphone feature for your Verizon Wireless
    XV6800. You can select the option with no monthly fee." But of course
    there is no such option.
     
  10. adkcamper

    adkcamper Guest

    Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    On Nov 28, 2:15 pm, SMS $B;[h\J8(B* $B2F(B <scharf.ste...@geemail.com> wrote:
    > I'd be interested in getting the XV-6800, but using it on my current
    > plan with no data service. I only really care about WiFi usage. There's
    > enough free WiFi in the places I frequent that I can get by with no EV-DO.
    >
    > Is there a way to ensure that it never connects via Verizon EV-DO and
    > starts charging me for data?


    I had a similar issue recently. I wanted to get a smartphone with
    Windows Mobile, so I could synch to my PC's Outlook. However I did
    not want "push" e-mail to my phone. I wanted to leave my plan as is -
    the old $5 a month mobile web plan (no longer available). Verizon
    would not let me get a smart phone without getting a data plan - at
    least another $20 a month... so I decided to go low tech and keep a
    Motorola phone that I could at least synch to contacts and calendar
    usiing Motorola phone tools.
     
  11. Re: XV-6800 WiFi. Is it usable without a Verizon Data Plan, or dothey somehow prevent its use.

    Dave Rudisill wrote:
    >> SMS ???• ? <scharf.steven@geemail.com> wrote:

    >
    >> Well it's all moot, as I can't get the XV-6800 through the checkout. It
    >> gives me the option to keep my current plan, but then insists "You must
    >> select a PDA/Smartphone option" with the only option being "Unlimited
    >> Data Usage$44.99/month." If I don't select it, it comes back with
    >> "Please select a PDA/Smartphone feature for your Verizon Wireless
    >> XV6800. You can select the option with no monthly fee." But of course
    >> there is no such option.

    >
    > PDA/phones, Smartphones, data cards, and Blackberries have all required
    > a data plan for years.


    As Todd stated, there is now supposed to be a "pay as you go" plan for
    data. You get an extra device discount if you sign up for a data plan
    above a certain cost, but it isn't supposed to be required any more.

    I think I may pass on Verizon. I only care about WiFi data, and if I go
    with Verizon I'll need to give up my tri-mode phone which I still need
    in many places I travel (or switch phones whenever I travel into AMPS
    areas). I may get a quad-band unlocked PDA/phone and activate it on
    T-Mobile prepaid. I know people that use the iPhone on T-Mobile and they
    are happy with the WiFi part of it, if not the cellular coverage. I
    really want the GPS functionality which Apple forgot to include in the
    iPhone's first version.
     

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