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how to get around the $ 175 upgrade fee

Discussion in 'alt.cellular.verizon' started by justin nichols, Sep 5, 2003.

  1. i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    are trying to get a new phone.

    is there a way to trick the system into thinking that they are able to
    upgrade.

    or can you lie and say that there phone was stolen and that they need to
    buy a new phone.?

    thanks


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  2. vicky smith

    vicky smith Guest

    there are no upgrade fee's. the only fee they charge is if u cancel.
    also u can't lie to a computer about if someone is eligible to get an
    upgrade or not. i don't know what kind of idiots work in verizon stores
    now. don't they give u guys proper training anymore?????

    thanks
    vicky

    "Geoff Brozny" <nospam@glorb.com> wrote in article
    <wcNNTP.01c373d1.1cddc180.1.1062781504@bbs.glorb.com>:
    >
    > "justin nichols" <jut5@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > news:vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com...
    > > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > > are trying to get a new phone.
    > >

    > what upgrade fee? you can update your equiptment at any point in time, you
    > may have to pay full retail price for the phone though, there is a $175
    > early termination fee, but no fee to upgrade that I know of
    >
    > geoff
    >
    >


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  3. Geoff Brozny

    Geoff Brozny Guest

    "justin nichols" <jut5@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    news:vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com...
    > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > are trying to get a new phone.
    >

    what upgrade fee? you can update your equiptment at any point in time, you
    may have to pay full retail price for the phone though, there is a $175
    early termination fee, but no fee to upgrade that I know of

    geoff
     
  4. Yo Joe

    Yo Joe Guest

    perfectgirl68332@aol.com (vicky smith) wrote in article
    <vlhkj5eno75n95@corp.supernews.com>:
    > there are no upgrade fee's. the only fee they charge is if u cancel.
    > also u can't lie to a computer about if someone is eligible to get an
    > upgrade or not. i don't know what kind of idiots work in verizon stores
    > now. don't they give u guys proper training anymore?????
    >



    Umm.. Vicky. Who said they were an employee? Assumption?

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  5. David L

    David L Guest

    jut5@hotmail.com (justin nichols) wrote in article
    <vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com>:
    > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > are trying to get a new phone.
    >
    > is there a way to trick the system into thinking that they are able to
    > upgrade.
    >
    > or can you lie and say that there phone was stolen and that they need to
    > buy a new phone.?
    >
    > thanks
    >


    Yes, you only get that one great deal on the first sign up and to some
    extent on 2 year contracts, which are not a good idea, because then your
    stuck with the same phone for 2 years.

    You can buy a new phone on ebay, unless it's very new or scarce.

    I won't comment on insurance fraud, but I always wondered what kind of
    deal you could get dating a Verizon employee:)



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  6. college guy

    college guy Guest

    there is an upgrade fee, but its only 15.00. it is what the rep gets
    paid for upgrading the service. as for the $175, i dont know who told
    you that was the upgrade fee but that is the early termination fee.
    maybe they were saying that was the retail price of the phone??

    xxxdat_nupe@yahoo.comxxx (Yo Joe) wrote in article
    <vlhm1jn9t0v8db@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    >
    > perfectgirl68332@aol.com (vicky smith) wrote in article
    > <vlhkj5eno75n95@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > there are no upgrade fee's. the only fee they charge is if u cancel.
    > > also u can't lie to a computer about if someone is eligible to get an
    > > upgrade or not. i don't know what kind of idiots work in verizon stores
    > > now. don't they give u guys proper training anymore?????
    > >

    >
    >
    > Umm.. Vicky. Who said they were an employee? Assumption?
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  7. i work at a Circuit city.
    and when i go into the Eros (our verizon based activation/upgrade
    program)

    i get a $175 upgrade fee for anyone that has not had that phone for more
    than 10 months (1year contract) and 22 months (2year contracts).

    this is what i am trying to get around. i want to up grade my own
    phone and verizon wireless wont let me due to the face that i have only
    had my account for 5 months.

    thanks





    xxxdat_nupe@yahoo.comxxx (Yo Joe) wrote in article
    <vlhm1jn9t0v8db@corp.supernews.com>:
    >
    >
    > perfectgirl68332@aol.com (vicky smith) wrote in article
    > <vlhkj5eno75n95@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > there are no upgrade fee's. the only fee they charge is if u cancel.
    > > also u can't lie to a computer about if someone is eligible to get an
    > > upgrade or not. i don't know what kind of idiots work in verizon stores
    > > now. don't they give u guys proper training anymore?????
    > >

    >
    >
    > Umm.. Vicky. Who said they were an employee? Assumption?
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  8. William Bray

    William Bray Guest

    It sounds like you want to run a scam. Be patient. Cell phones are
    going to improve and so will the contracts. You will be better off if
    you wait out the alloted time. You are only in a one year contract. If
    you have a good RF phone then wait a little. The Internet stuff is
    slower than an old land line modem. The applications on the latest
    phones are too far in advance in the actual capacity to deliver- it will
    improve.
    My cell phone is not even rated as an average RF phone, the two year
    wait to upgrade is murder.

    jut5@hotmail.com (justin nichols) wrote in article
    <vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com>:
    > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > are trying to get a new phone.
    >
    > is there a way to trick the system into thinking that they are able to
    > upgrade.
    >
    > or can you lie and say that there phone was stolen and that they need to
    > buy a new phone.?
    >
    > thanks
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  9. college guy

    college guy Guest

    i deal with the same system, and maybe its different for circuit city
    boys but i know that if you want to do an equipment upgrade and you
    aren't available to do one. you have to buy the phone out right, or (and
    what i would suggest that you do) get on ebay.com and look for the phone
    you want.

    jut5@hotmail.com (justin nichols) wrote in article
    <vli1e9csc63ha6@corp.supernews.com>:
    > i work at a Circuit city.
    > and when i go into the Eros (our verizon based activation/upgrade
    > program)
    >
    > i get a $175 upgrade fee for anyone that has not had that phone for more
    > than 10 months (1year contract) and 22 months (2year contracts).
    >
    > this is what i am trying to get around. i want to up grade my own
    > phone and verizon wireless wont let me due to the face that i have only
    > had my account for 5 months.
    >
    > thanks
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > xxxdat_nupe@yahoo.comxxx (Yo Joe) wrote in article
    > <vlhm1jn9t0v8db@corp.supernews.com>:
    > >
    > >
    > > perfectgirl68332@aol.com (vicky smith) wrote in article
    > > <vlhkj5eno75n95@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > > there are no upgrade fee's. the only fee they charge is if u cancel.
    > > > also u can't lie to a computer about if someone is eligible to get an
    > > > upgrade or not. i don't know what kind of idiots work in verizon stores
    > > > now. don't they give u guys proper training anymore?????
    > > >

    > >
    > >
    > > Umm.. Vicky. Who said they were an employee? Assumption?
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  10. justin nichols <jut5@hotmail.com> wrote:
    > i work at a Circuit city.
    > and when i go into the Eros (our verizon based activation/upgrade
    > program)
    >
    > i get a $175 upgrade fee for anyone that has not had that phone for more
    > than 10 months (1year contract) and 22 months (2year contracts).


    Must be an Authorized Retailer deal, because I have *never* heard of
    that policy from a Verizon company store.

    > this is what i am trying to get around. i want to up grade my own
    > phone and verizon wireless wont let me due to the face that i have only
    > had my account for 5 months.


    Even if you pay full price?


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  11. Quick

    Quick Guest

    "William Bray" <wmbray@hotmail.com> wrote
    > It sounds like you want to run a scam.


    He does. Said he is a Circuit City employee.
    Inspires shopping confidence doesn't it?

    -Quick
     
  12. there is no 175.00 upgrade fee,only thing is if you dont qualify for
    equipment dicount,then you will have to pay full retail for phone,but
    you can always call customer service to do esn change which will put
    phone on your account,can also do esn change on verizonwireless web site
    under your account info.175.00 fee is if you stop you service if you are
    still under contract.any one tells you other wise i would say they are
    trying to rip you of.

    jut5@hotmail.com (justin nichols) wrote in article
    <vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com>:
    > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > are trying to get a new phone.
    >
    > is there a way to trick the system into thinking that they are able to
    > upgrade.
    >
    > or can you lie and say that there phone was stolen and that they need to
    > buy a new phone.?
    >
    > thanks
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  13. Scott Brady

    Scott Brady Guest

    Either pay the price or wait and stop looking for ways to steal a phone.

    Or, as others have stated, buy one on eBay and swap the ESN yourself.
    The $175 is probably a Circuit City fee, not a Verizon fee.

    jut5@hotmail.com (justin nichols) wrote in article
    <vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com>:
    > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > are trying to get a new phone.
    >
    > is there a way to trick the system into thinking that they are able to
    > upgrade.
    >
    > or can you lie and say that there phone was stolen and that they need to
    > buy a new phone.?
    >
    > thanks
    >
    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


    [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
     
  14. someone shut this hoe up. those idiots who work in verizon corporate
    stores make a whole lot more money than you do i'm sure.

    perfectgirl68332@aol.com (vicky smith) wrote in article
    <vlhkj5eno75n95@corp.supernews.com>:
    > there are no upgrade fee's. the only fee they charge is if u cancel.
    > also u can't lie to a computer about if someone is eligible to get an
    > upgrade or not. i don't know what kind of idiots work in verizon stores
    > now. don't they give u guys proper training anymore?????
    >
    > thanks
    > vicky
    >
    > "Geoff Brozny" <nospam@glorb.com> wrote in article
    > <wcNNTP.01c373d1.1cddc180.1.1062781504@bbs.glorb.com>:
    > >
    > > "justin nichols" <jut5@hotmail.com> wrote in message
    > > news:vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com...
    > > > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > > > are trying to get a new phone.
    > > >

    > > what upgrade fee? you can update your equiptment at any point in time, you
    > > may have to pay full retail price for the phone though, there is a $175
    > > early termination fee, but no fee to upgrade that I know of
    > >
    > > geoff
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  15. p lane

    p lane Guest

    If you have a active verizon account, and you have a verizon compatible
    phone, all you need to do is an esn change with is free, and can be done
    over the cell phone, *228, or on verizons home page, or carry into a
    verizon store--the only 175 charge I've heard is for early contract
    cancellation--this is not a cancellation, just a phone change--there was
    a post the other day asking about somewhat the same thing, thinking that
    there would be a charge should the user want to change from the original
    discounted phone to another one--I have done this numerous times, they
    don't care, but they may ask why--a good answer is because I want to
    (just kidding) --don't like this phone, it won't work well, etc. I saw
    another post where one guy claimed he did this numerous times per month
    w/o complaint.

    sbrady@triad.rr.com (Scott Brady) wrote in article
    <vlk8mcd1k84a72@corp.supernews.com>:
    > Either pay the price or wait and stop looking for ways to steal a phone.
    >
    > Or, as others have stated, buy one on eBay and swap the ESN yourself.
    > The $175 is probably a Circuit City fee, not a Verizon fee.
    >
    > jut5@hotmail.com (justin nichols) wrote in article
    > <vlhgcfinl3aec7@corp.supernews.com>:
    > > i am looking into getting around the $175 upgrade fee for customers that
    > > are trying to get a new phone.
    > >
    > > is there a way to trick the system into thinking that they are able to
    > > upgrade.
    > >
    > > or can you lie and say that there phone was stolen and that they need to
    > > buy a new phone.?
    > >
    > > thanks
    > >
    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]


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  16. p lane <plane@usa.com> wrote:
    > If you have a active verizon account, and you have a verizon compatible
    > phone, all you need to do is an esn change with is free


    Mmmm... not necessarily, I've seen some stores that charge for it.
    $10 or $15 or $25. But not $175, ever.

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    JustThe.net Internet & Multimedia Services
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    Steve Sobol, Proprietor
    888.480.4NET (4638) * 248.724.4NET * sjsobol@JustThe.net
     
  17. Jacob Suter

    Jacob Suter Guest

    "Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    news:D4idnemc8ZXlzseiU-KYuA@lmi.net...
    > p lane <plane@usa.com> wrote:
    > > If you have a active verizon account, and you have a verizon compatible
    > > phone, all you need to do is an esn change with is free

    >
    > Mmmm... not necessarily, I've seen some stores that charge for it.
    > $10 or $15 or $25. But not $175, ever.


    It'd be mucher easier (and free) to do it at your house with the help of a
    web browser and www.verizonwireless.com.

    I changed phones THREE TIMES in ONE NIGHT out of boredom. :)

    JS
     
  18. dont do esn change to many times because to customer service it looks
    like you are trying out phones from store and this will mess up your
    account if you are due an upgrade soon,they look at esn change as you
    trying out phones on 15 day bit,so if you go over two esn changes they
    will most likely make you pay full retail for phone if you are due a
    equipment upgrade,computer dosnt show them that you did esn change,it
    looks like you did it at stores,so be carefull if you are due upgrade
    soon.

    "Jacob Suter" <jsuter@spamintrastar.net> wrote in article
    <mBu6b.14$cD.4@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>:
    >
    > "Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    > news:D4idnemc8ZXlzseiU-KYuA@lmi.net...
    > > p lane <plane@usa.com> wrote:
    > > > If you have a active verizon account, and you have a verizon compatible
    > > > phone, all you need to do is an esn change with is free

    > >
    > > Mmmm... not necessarily, I've seen some stores that charge for it.
    > > $10 or $15 or $25. But not $175, ever.

    >
    > It'd be mucher easier (and free) to do it at your house with the help of a
    > web browser and www.verizonwireless.com.
    >
    > I changed phones THREE TIMES in ONE NIGHT out of boredom. :)
    >
    > JS
    >
    >


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  19. Steve Crow

    Steve Crow Guest

    Bull.

    For starters, the online system at verizonwireless.com asks for the reason
    behind the change. I'm sure this is noted somewhere when you do the swap.
    I mean, they've got to be asking for a reason.

    Second, I have done literally DOZENS of ESN changes on my account over the
    course of a year and still been permitted to upgrade on time. PLAN CHANGES
    have thrown things off before, but Credit & Order Operations was able to
    approve the upgrade manually with little to no effort. And yes, those ESN
    changes *were* done at a store... as a VZW agent I did the ESN change in
    our normal activations system (e*ROES).

    Steve

    On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, mitchell friend wrote:

    > dont do esn change to many times because to customer service it looks
    > like you are trying out phones from store and this will mess up your
    > account if you are due an upgrade soon,they look at esn change as you
    > trying out phones on 15 day bit,so if you go over two esn changes they
    > will most likely make you pay full retail for phone if you are due a
    > equipment upgrade,computer dosnt show them that you did esn change,it
    > looks like you did it at stores,so be carefull if you are due upgrade
    > soon.
    >
    > "Jacob Suter" <jsuter@spamintrastar.net> wrote in article
    > <mBu6b.14$cD.4@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>:
    > >
    > > "Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    > > news:D4idnemc8ZXlzseiU-KYuA@lmi.net...
    > > > p lane <plane@usa.com> wrote:
    > > > > If you have a active verizon account, and you have a verizon compatible
    > > > > phone, all you need to do is an esn change with is free
    > > >
    > > > Mmmm... not necessarily, I've seen some stores that charge for it.
    > > > $10 or $15 or $25. But not $175, ever.

    > >
    > > It'd be mucher easier (and free) to do it at your house with the help of a
    > > web browser and www.verizonwireless.com.
    > >
    > > I changed phones THREE TIMES in ONE NIGHT out of boredom. :)
    > >
    > > JS
    > >
    > >

    >
    > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
    >



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  20. i am in the ohio market,and to do esn change on web site it doesnt ask
    for reason why, just asks for phone number,then esn number twice,then
    model of phone changing to and then after submit,phone is usable almost
    instantly.have done esn change with customer service and never asked
    reason for change,but by doing esn change to much it is coming up in
    verizon system that looks to customer service that you are changing
    phones a lot and they think it is being done at store level,have no
    codes showing it was done on web site,but you are a reseller so your
    system is going to be a little different than verizon corp.store is.i
    know what i wrote is so because it just happened to me,and had to go to
    regional president to get it straightened out,was being called a
    liar,told couldnt do esn changes on web account site,but then most of
    the people i talked to didnt seem to know there jobs to well,including
    manager.but that happens when sit on your ass a lot and dont do your
    job,you get kind of dumb since your not keeping up on things that are
    going on in your store,or getting the training down like you should.only
    wrote what my experience has been with esn change and customer service
    so far with verizonwireless.

    Steve Crow <scrow@stevecrow.net> wrote in article
    <Pine.LNX.4.53.0309062117290.21110@www.stevecrow.net>:
    > Bull.
    >
    > For starters, the online system at verizonwireless.com asks for the reason
    > behind the change. I'm sure this is noted somewhere when you do the swap.
    > I mean, they've got to be asking for a reason.
    >
    > Second, I have done literally DOZENS of ESN changes on my account over the
    > course of a year and still been permitted to upgrade on time. PLAN CHANGES
    > have thrown things off before, but Credit & Order Operations was able to
    > approve the upgrade manually with little to no effort. And yes, those ESN
    > changes *were* done at a store... as a VZW agent I did the ESN change in
    > our normal activations system (e*ROES).
    >
    > Steve
    >
    > On Sun, 7 Sep 2003, mitchell friend wrote:
    >
    > > dont do esn change to many times because to customer service it looks
    > > like you are trying out phones from store and this will mess up your
    > > account if you are due an upgrade soon,they look at esn change as you
    > > trying out phones on 15 day bit,so if you go over two esn changes they
    > > will most likely make you pay full retail for phone if you are due a
    > > equipment upgrade,computer dosnt show them that you did esn change,it
    > > looks like you did it at stores,so be carefull if you are due upgrade
    > > soon.
    > >
    > > "Jacob Suter" <jsuter@spamintrastar.net> wrote in article
    > > <mBu6b.14$cD.4@newssvr24.news.prodigy.com>:
    > > >
    > > > "Steven J Sobol" <sjsobol@JustThe.net> wrote in message
    > > > news:D4idnemc8ZXlzseiU-KYuA@lmi.net...
    > > > > p lane <plane@usa.com> wrote:
    > > > > > If you have a active verizon account, and you have a verizon compatible
    > > > > > phone, all you need to do is an esn change with is free
    > > > >
    > > > > Mmmm... not necessarily, I've seen some stores that charge for it.
    > > > > $10 or $15 or $25. But not $175, ever.
    > > >
    > > > It'd be mucher easier (and free) to do it at your house with the help of a
    > > > web browser and www.verizonwireless.com.
    > > >
    > > > I changed phones THREE TIMES in ONE NIGHT out of boredom. :)
    > > >
    > > > JS
    > > >
    > > >

    > >
    > > [posted via phonescoop.com - free web access to the alt.cellular groups]
    > >

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